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To: Nik Naym
If you think Reagan was in any way responsible for even one abortion then you are a raving nut job.

Reagan’s Darkest Hour

On June 14, 1967, Ronald Reagan signed the Therapeutic Abortion Act, after only six months as California governor. From a total of 518 legal abortions in California in 1967, the number of abortions would soar to an annual average of 100,000 in the remaining years of Reagan’s two terms — more abortions than in any U.S. state prior to the advent of Roe v. Wade. Reagan’s signing of the abortion bill was an ironic beginning for a man often seen as the modern father of the pro-life movement.

1,187 posted on 04/11/2012 4:52:16 PM PDT by Once-Ler (There are two paths! One is America, the other is Occupy!)
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To: Once-Ler

Do you have a clue?

The California therapeutic Abortion Act was NOT a go ahead for abortions on demand. It RESTRICTED abortions.


Paraphrased from (of all places the ACLU of Northern CA) :

It made abortion legal ONLY if a hospital committee determined that the pregnancy would gravely impair a woman’s physical or mental health or a District Attorney concluded that the pregnancy probably resulted from rape or incest.


Not only that, it was struck down by the courts as too restrictive, and then of course along came roe V Wade.

So go ahead and try to make Reagan sound like he was pro abortion.

You will only make yourself look stupid.

It is bizzaro world when right here on FR people are saying it is OK to vote for Romney, and that Reagan was pro-abortion.

I must be stuck in the freakin’ Twilight Zone!


1,191 posted on 04/11/2012 6:22:55 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Once-Ler; ansel12; Nik Naym
Reagan's Darkest Hour

#1

Allow me to quote FREEPER Ansel12 -- in a comment he made on a thread Feb. 9, 2008 Reagan re: Abortion as CA Guv

Reagan’s most able biographer, Lou Cannon, has documented* that in contravention to Romney’s claim that Reagan was “adamantly pro-choice” Governor Reagan had never really given the abortion issue much thought before he took office. Cannon demonstrates that when Reagan was first confronted with abortion in 1967 he was unusually indecisive and had a difficult time deciding what he should do with a liberal abortion bill winding its way through the state house in Sacramento. Cannon documents that after the abortion bill passed the California Senate, Reagan was asked by reporters during a press conference about his stance on the bill. When asked if he would sign the bill, Reagan answered, “I haven’t had time to really sit down and marshal my thoughts on that.” Such a reply certainly does not reveal an “adamant” position on the issue, as Romney claims Reagan held. Further, such indecision was not in any way a hallmark of the Reagan mode of operation. In fact, Cannon writes that in 1968, the year after the bill passed, Reagan said that “those were awful weeks,” and that he would never have signed the bill if he had “been a more experienced governor.” In light of the evidence it cannot be said that Reagan was ever an “adamant” pro-abortion supporter who later “grew” into an anti-abortion advocate. For Romney to invoke the spirit of Ronald Reagan in this way is a disgraceful attempt to co-opt the reputation of the most famous and successful politician of his age and an icon of the conservative movement to the aid of a candidate floundering on an issue. Mitt Romney’s abortion problem bears no resemblance at all to Ronald Reagan’s views “grown” or not.”

Ansel then linked to: http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/27404.html

#2

Besides, Reagan flipped; Romney flip-flopped, flip-flopped, flip-flopped, and is now trying to flip yet once again...

Whereas Reagan's flip culminated in his 1984 book, Abortion: The Conscience of a Nation...all Romney can do is bounce back & forth as an enemy of the womb. Pro abortion in the early 90s...claimed in a 2001 utah letter to the editor (circa being in Utah due to Olympics) that he did NOT consider himself "pro-choice" (a flip)...

Flopped back to abortion 2002 when he ran for MA gov...

Romney then flipped to "pro-life" supposedly Nov of 04...

Then he flopped back to maintaining status quo of abortion comment during May '05 press conference + pro-abortion MA healthcare in '06...

Then he flipped to "pro-life" again in early '07 as he began his campaign...then flopped to a pro-abortion comment during Katie Couric interview Dec of 07 -- saying it was "OK" for parents to give their offspring to research.

Now, he's trying to flip again to "pro-life."

People who are ignorant of Romney's pro-abortion history are often looking for any reason to justify him -- and essentially become Romney's personal apologists.

1,209 posted on 04/12/2012 10:42:07 AM PDT by Colofornian ( It's not even 'conservative convictions' be damned anymore; they've ALREADY BEEN anathematized.)
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