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All these things you tremble that Obama might do in a second term are only possible if : 1) he isn't impeached first, and 2) Congress is filled with Mitt Romney's that will rubber stamp his evil.

Or 3) Nobody shows up to vote for Romney, turning enough Red seats in the House to Blue, giving Obama another completely-Democrat controlled Congress.

Bullsh*t. Most of us were well aware of Obama's intentions the moment he took office and understood it all too well.

You are correct there and yet you still draw an equivalent between Romney and Obama. Romney may not be anywhere close to a good conservative, but he is NOT Obama.

Would you replace Barack Obama with Hillary Clinton if she ran as our candidate, our standard bearer, a republican?

Strawman

There's a bigger picture in play than November than you realize.

Oh, I realize it. If Obama wins again, get ready for a real squashing of political speech in this country. And in your view, if Romney wins, conservatives are gone and I disagree with this. We were able to change the mind of W on more than one issue with our ability to burn up the Federal phone lines. We can do that again with Romney.

I guess my question that goes still unanswered is okay, we allow Obama to win re-election. Then what? If there is indeed a bigger picture in play, how is another four years of Obama going to help US?

I guess my question that goes still unanswered is okay, we allow Obama to win re-election. Then what? If there is indeed a bigger picture in play, how is another four years of Obama going to help US?

Having Obama in for four years won't help. Having Romney in for four (or eight) years won't help either -- in fact it will hurt by redefining "conservative". There are no "positives", so we focus on mitigating the "negatives".

Obama provides a target on the field in front of us we can unify to fight. Romney provides chaos in our ranks and constant discord that is difficult to overcome. It's pretty basic strategy really.

I would prefer that Obama lose to a conservative. But if he instead finds victory over a progressive liberal disguised as a conservative, the GOP is forced to become our ally once more and face a common opponent. And, maybe, the GOP will learn that buying a primary for a progressive candidate does not necessarily mean winning the general. They'll have to reconsider how they spend the coffer, especially as we quit contributing and dry it up.

My personal opinion is that the GOP would rather let the cat out of the bag on Obama's impeachable offenses than permit him four more years in office. It's a gamble, but I feel comfortable with it. And the alternative, having a liberal standard bearer redefine "conservatism", is not acceptable -- and in fact the Founders warned us against it.

You think it is a strawman argument, but that's the reality. If the GOP chooses Romney as its representative (our representative), then the GOP is little different than the DNC (we are little different). I can't abide by that.

We'll show up to vote. Don't worry about that. We'll vote for the conservatives on the ballot as we find them. But Romney is not in that camp. You say we burned up the phone lines and changed Bush. He left office right after igniting the "too big to fail" bailout fuse. How'd that work for us? Time to try something different.