Posted on 04/09/2012 10:41:46 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
Are you telling them how to attack us? This site is outlandish in that regard.
Would you guys take a break?
Thank you.
“I feel as sick as I did on 9-11, having this dreaded feeling we are going into an active war.”
Me too. Problem is, this one will make 9-11 seem like child’s play! It’s not a matter of “if” but “when!”
And on the day of his re-nomination, he and the Mooch will stand up and announce they will be having another baby. Whether she really is expecting would have nothing to do with it.
That was my first thought also
http://www.ussiowa.org/general/html/willie_d.htm
For those who didn't go to the link CSMUSARET posted, it's a story about a WW2 ship that constantly made major mistakes, up to and including firing a torpedo at the USS Iowa carrying President Roosevelt.
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Meantime, on the IOWA’s bridge, word of the torpedo firing reached President Roosevelt. he only wanted to see the torpedo and asked that his wheelchair be moved to the railing. His loyal Secret Service bodyguard immediately drew his pistol as if to shoot the torpedo!
The IOWA began evasive maneuvers, yet trained all guns on the William D. Porter. There was now some thought that the W.D. Porter was part of an assassination plot. Within moments of the warning, a thunderous explosion occurred behind the IOWA. The torpedo had been detonated by the wash kicked up by the battleship's increased speed. The crisis was over, and so were some careers. Captain Walter's final utterance to the IOWA was in response to a question about the origin of the torpedo. His answer was a weak, “We did it.”
Shortly thereafter, the new state-of-the-art destroyer, her ambitious captain and seemingly fumbling crew were placed under arrest and sent to Bermuda for trial. it was the first time in the history of the United States Navy that an entire ship and her company had been arrested. The William D. Porter was surrounded by Marines when it docked in Bermuda and was held there for several days as the closed-session inquiry attempted to find out what had happened.
The outcome was delayed for a couple of days until Torpedoman Dawson finally confessed to having inadvertently left the primer in the torpedo tube, which caused the launch. Just after the torpedo left the tube, Dawson had thrown the primer over the side to conceal his mistake. The truth was eventually priced out of him, and the inquiry drew to a close. The whole incident was chalked up to an incredible set of circumstances and placed under a cloak of secrecy.
But what happens to public opinion when the hundreds of jihadis already here strat their contant rain of small scale attackes?
“Iran does not have the necessary assets to sink a Carrier.”
Russia does, and Iran shares a border with her.
What’s ‘Golden Opportunity’ in Russian? Two carriers sunk in the gulf would be that opportunity.
After such a thing, Israel would well and truly be alone. Pax Americana would be at an end.
Thanx for keeping me straight on the E’s dates——I just fixed ‘em and just took them as they came. That whole Veetnam decade is just one date to me. I have an old video, history channel I think, that deals with the ‘69 fire and it clearly mentions that McCain was sitting in a cockpit very close to the missile that cooked off. But I’ve always suspected that the guys doing the story were mixing up details of the Enterprise fire and the Forrestal fire which were very similar circumstances. We didn’t have the complete report yet on the Forrestal incident when the Enterprise lit up so wouldn’t have known who McCain was at the time. Forrestal was repaired at Subic where one of the sailor machinests fell in love with a Flip chick, wanted to stay longer, so he dropped a big crescent into a reduction gear box——delayed them another 60 days. I think he just got out of jail a couple years ago. The E came to Pearl and we were really grateful to the crew for absolutely deep-chucking every single piece of burned/damaged crap on the way so we had a very clean hull to start repairing. The scrap pile we generated in the yard from cutting out damage only filled about two dumpsters.
How many planes does McCain owe us for? 4?
Forestall was the first of it's class and the end of an era. It was the last 600 PSI propulsion for carriers. Saratoga was the first 1200 PSI.
I vaguely remember hearing about the reduction gear incident maybe after basic training. I'm not sure how many planes McCain actually lost. In my 4 years on a carrier I'd put our aircraft loss numbers at about 8-12 and that was 77-80 era. A Tomcat came in low one night hit the round down and broke the landing gear, an S-3 Viking missed first three arresting wires snagged the fourth and went over the side {no survivors}, Two F-14's rolled on the hanger bay during hard list and went nose too nose, about 4 or more A-6's would go out and drop into the water like a brick due to catastrophic engine failures. That's life on the big city.
The Oriskany fire was a little different in origin. It was started by a lit flare being tossed in the flare box. The other two fires Forestall and "E" were missile related off Nam which adds to confusion.
When we got back to port the Old Man made an announcement that the missing airman had been located. It seems that when the Navy sent the couriers to give his mom notice of him missing at sea she said why he's in the living room. He booked a commercial flight home and had a buddy toss his flight deck gear over the side that evening. Now that's LOW!
A lot of stuff goes or or went on back then that never made the news.
I agree. Looks like ferry transports and unless they are specially assigned to the U.S. Navy it seems that bad security is still being practiced by the U.S. Navy.
They are contract ferries easier to get 4000 Sailors ashore without lines...
CVNs only have utility boats, gigs and barges.
Oh, BTW, USS AMERICA 1985-1989....AG1
A boat that size can not fit close enough to the carrier too on or off load is what I'm saying. The flightdeck overhangs out way too far too allow it. Also the hull extends outward the further up you go. An optical illusion kinda like the F-14 fly-by picture off the America.
I've spent a lot of time on those boats tied off on a utility boat at a boat boon. The boats are not at the ship. No way.
Seems like we departed the ship from the stern or starboard side. But, tje shadows.
It is important. Good post.
That's all we had plus the two officer boats. I was on Boat Crew and a Boat Snipe for all of them but the Captains Gig and Admirals Barge LOL. We ran 7 UB's {50'} 2 PB's 35'? {officers boats simular to Captains Gig but front and rear hard covered cabins} the Admirals barge and the Gig. In my four years we only berthed at two piers besides N.O.B. or the yards. One place was Mayport {still a USN NOB} and in France once but we had to stay steaming. We never had contracted rides.
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