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Romney opens lead in Santorum's backyard
Mitt Romney Leads In New Pennsylvania Poll ^ | 04/05/2012 | Doug Mataconis

Posted on 04/05/2012 6:49:16 AM PDT by Ocarterma

Two days after losing three more primaries, Rick Santorum appears to be in trouble in his home state:

Mitt Romney’s taken the lead in PPP’s newest poll of Rick Santorum’s home state of Pennsylvania. Romney has 42% to 37% for Santorum with Ron Paul at 9% and Newt Gingrich at 6%. The numbers represent a dramatic turnaround from when PPP polled the state a month ago. Romney’s gained 17 points, going from 25% to 42%. Meanwhile Santorum’s dropped 6 points from 43% to 37%, for an overall swing of 23 points in the last four weeks.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; 2012swingstates; election; pa2012; primary; romney; romneybots; santorum
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To: CatherineofAragon

What is Mark saying tonight about Rom making a stupid comment about women and country clubs?

I missed the first part.

Rush abhors Mitt too but he is so concerned with his image as an entertainer that I don’t think he’ll come over.

And I’ll never forget his foolish Operation Chaos. I still have my shirt. :-)


181 posted on 04/05/2012 8:16:04 PM PDT by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Oh here it is;
Good one: Rom. Make yourself sound like an out of touch Elitist and a friend of Bam’s.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, Obama’s likely challenger in the fall, said “of course” he would allow women in “if I could run Augusta.”

“Of course. I am not a member of Augusta. I don’t know if I would qualify. My golf game is not that good,” Romney told reporters as he chatted with supporters after a campaign stop in Pennsylvania. “If I could run Augusta, which isn’t likely to happen, of course I’d have women.”


182 posted on 04/05/2012 8:22:59 PM PDT by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP; Lazlo in PA; Antoninus; Mountain Mary; jwalsh07; Guenevere; cripplecreek; dirtboy; ...

I haven’t posted on this site for years, but lurked a lot because it’s a sensational compilation of political news and conservative opinions. Even if I don’t post, I have donated in the past simply because I figured this site was well worth it.

PSYCHO-FREEP, posters like you, and others of your ilk, are the reason why I will never again give one copper cent to site. Not because you oppose a candidate I support, but because you are so vile and malicious in your rhetoric. You post half-truths, insults and spam, and gleefully get away with it. To attack a candidate you dislike is one thing, but to malign the supporters of those you don’t approve, when “we” are all on the same side, serves no purpose other than to increase enmity and chaos. Wonder why that is?

Santorum has faults, as do ALL other politicians. But in his political career he has valiantly stood for the most important issue this nation faces: the fight against infanticide, along with a host of other issues like the sanctity of marriage, and revamping social security. Yes, he sided with members of his party as a loyal Republican and he supported the values of his constituents: the people of the red-blue state of Pennsylvania. To you and others, apparently this is an unforgivable sin.

PSYCHO-FREEP you (unfortunately, like a few too many posters here)are detrimental to this formerly fine site. Were you even aware that married woman with children (like my 34 year-old-self) and a large group of 18-24 (particularly religious ones) were among Santorum’s biggest backers? Those are two groups conservatives desperately need and it is a grave mistake to mock those supporters.

You never did Newt Gingrich, an intelligent man, any service advocating for him by being antogonistic, obnoxious and down-right mean to others. What code of ethics do you stand for other than to cause misery to those who disagree with you?

If I CC’d any posters, it’s only because I enjoyed reading your civil posts, no matter where you stood politically. If more posters on this site were of your honorable caliber, I’d have posted more, donated more, and who knows? Maybe a few other people felt the same.


183 posted on 04/05/2012 8:25:33 PM PDT by two134711 (I am Conservative, no longer a Republican.)
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To: SoConPubbie

LOL, your defense of uberRINO McCain is cute but wrong.

Romney and his family never supported gay marriage, but McCain’s family does with their vacuous duct tape ads.
When has John McCain ever supported Abortion at the level that Romney has? When McCain voted against a resolution calling for Roe v Wade to be repealed and when he voted for pro-abort judges on SCOTUS. And so it goes. Romney will make a more conservative president than McCain would have been, in particular on economic issues, because McCain was just plain out to lunch there.


184 posted on 04/05/2012 8:41:08 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: two134711

Well stated.


185 posted on 04/05/2012 8:58:04 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Mountain Mary
What is Mark saying tonight about Rom making a stupid comment about women and country clubs?

Marks point this evening was that this Augusta country club story is garbage and the fact that Obummer is wasting time thinking about it in relation ship to women while single moms can't afford gas in their cars is a bigger issue for women. Then he went into a discussion on how weak and incompetent it was for Romney to jump on the bandwagon and agree with Obummer instead of making the original point about him wasting time on sports issues.

Levin was 100% correct. How can a guy that has made a career out of running against the Rats not be able to successfully challenge them on something simple like this. He basically called out Milt as a very weak man without using his name.

186 posted on 04/05/2012 9:05:41 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Christie at the beach

If you actually read my posts, you would know that I stated that PPP will be honest for awhile to gain credibility, and LATER they will skew the polls, to affect an election. It is crunch time for the GOP primaries, and they want Romney, I believe.

That’s what Zogby used to do (gain credibility; then skew the polls at crunch time), and I believe people caught on, and we don’t hear so much about Zogby now.

btw, just because Rick is my favorite doesn’t mean I don’t like Newt.


187 posted on 04/05/2012 9:20:03 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I love Mark Levin. He’s going to say and stick to what he believes all the while everyone else is caving.

Do you mind, I would like to remind everyone to pray for Santorum, even one prayer if you haven’t yet.

p.s. Catholics, say a prayer for Santorum at the Consecration Easter Sunday. During the Consecration is a powerful time to petition God.


188 posted on 04/05/2012 9:48:07 PM PDT by stpio
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To: Mountain Mary

“I know folks from Pa. who have a great deal of respect for the whole Santorum family. ..”

How could anyone not like the Santorum family.

Karen Santorum has been called “immensely likeable,” the daughter that campaigns with Rick is a charmer, they choose life, even if their child is not healthy, and it’s a beautiful sight to see all the Santorums gather around their dad on important occasions.

Karen Santorum said in an interview, it was love at first sight, because Rick was kind, and funny, and she said when he comes home, he forgets politics, and enjoys his family. Rick even cooks, including foods like Chicken Marsala, etc., or pancakes for the kids, she said. She also said Rick is brilliant, and he IS!


189 posted on 04/05/2012 9:49:56 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: two134711
What is with you guys that donate and then come back and throw it up to the forum. Give if you like to-I have not read all of the views on this thread. I just post my own views regardless of the talking points. But it seems like this post was way over the line-judging someone for having an opposite opinion. You went on and on defending your candidate. whoever your ilk you speak of-is way over the line as well. (Maybe this works at the Kmart refurn center but be a grown up here, ok)
190 posted on 04/05/2012 10:09:32 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
Sure-you have been one negative poster about Newt.

I have a memory so when the new attitude comes, it is not becoming.

191 posted on 04/05/2012 10:13:05 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Christie at the beach

You and I view reality differently. But reality is not subjective, so perhaps the truth is not quite what either of us believe it to be. Then again...one of may be closer. Who, but Providence, knows?

Besides, I shop mostly Target and Kohls, where the customer service departments are endearingly polite and professional, and I’m not familiar with the sort of ill-mannered behavior that works best at getting one’s way at places like K-mart.


192 posted on 04/05/2012 11:22:57 PM PDT by two134711 (I am Conservative, no longer a Republican.)
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To: two134711

I agree with your sentiments.

Wen I was weighing supporting Newt, I was actually shocked at the cruel taunting coming from his fans here. How could Santorum be all of the horrible things they say about him, yet Gingrich so holy and mighty? it’s been several months of “my guy good. Your guy really bad.” around here. I hated it do much that I tried to temper my own responses about my candidate.

I’ve been very honest about why I did not support Gingrich, but not mean. Just honest about why I think of him a certain way.


193 posted on 04/05/2012 11:53:39 PM PDT by Yaelle (Let's fight Romney with every primary. Why make it easy for him? Go Rick!)
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To: Christie at the beach
Sure-you have been one negative poster about Newt.

I have a memory so when the new attitude comes, it is not becoming.


You obviously have a poor memory. Checking my posting record might help refresh it.
194 posted on 04/06/2012 12:03:42 AM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Mitt Romney is a handbasket driver. I refuse to ride.)
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To: Yaelle

While I lurked I read things that were bizarre and personally vicious, so I appreciated the efforts of several posters to keep their eyes on the ball: we are in this together to fight Obama.

Thanks for your works, and those of others, to try to keep this a clean fight. :)


195 posted on 04/06/2012 12:32:23 AM PDT by two134711 (I am Conservative, no longer a Republican.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP; All; Lazlo in PA; cripplecreek; Antoninus; AmericanInTokyo; writer33; ...
82 posted on Thu Apr 05 2012 10:28:01 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by PSYCHO-FREEP: “This is typical for Santorum, who has a long history and reputation for being obsessively stubborn, arrogant and unreasonable. So, it looks like Santorum has decided to self destruct once again. Only this time, it will be permanent.”

Okay, Psycho-Freep, the permanent destruction of Rick Santorum should make you happy.

This campaign is very close to being over, I'm getting tired of seeing posts like this from you, and I'm going to respond with a bit of the spirit you seem to use regularly. I can respect a Gingrich supporter, but at this point I do not think your posts are accomplishing anything except helping Mitt Romney, and I cannot respect that. You need to state clearly, if you have not already done so, why you oppose Romney and why you believe he should not win the Republican nomination. If you've made such posts in the past, I'd like to see links to them, and if you haven't done so in the past, I'd like to see you spend some significant time explaining why you believe Romney is a bad candidate.

I'm not so sure I agree with your evaluation of Santorum as being "obsessively stubborn, arrogant and unreasonable." But let's say you're right. I would politely suggest that a lot of conservatives consider the flip sides of being “stubborn, arrogant and unreasonable” to be “steadfast, angry at liberals, and refusing to compromise convictions.”

Now you may very well believe that Rick Santorum isn't conservative enough, but someone who likes compromise probably isn't going to be a conservative. A conservative compromises when he's forced to do so, not when a liberal asks him nicely to do so.

Since you're obviously a strong Santorum opponent, would you like to explain your plan for how to keep President Obama from winning re-election at this late date? I believe Mitt Romney will hand the election to Obama, and even if Romney is elected, we're going to have a liberal Republican in office who will make George H.W. Bush look conservative. At least Gerald Ford and GHW Bush were legitimate World War II military veterans and deserve credit for that, and I do not see what Romney brings to the Republican table other that having tens of millions of dollars of his own money to spend on his own campaign.

You've got every right in the world to say Santorum isn't the best Republican candidate — I have my own concerns about Santorum — but won't you agree with me that Romney is far worse?

196 posted on 04/06/2012 4:02:31 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: caww; All
128 posted on Thu Apr 05 2012 14:57:45 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by caww: “I’m in PA and though fully in Newt’s court... to keep Romney at bay I will vote for Santorum here. Much reluctantly I might add ...no... more than reluctantly. I hate this primary....worse than when McCain screwed us.”

Thank you, Caww. I can respect that.

For whatever it's worth, I took a bunch of hits in my own conservative Christian circles for making a case that evangelicals could vote for someone with Gingrich's background.

My argument, in brief, was:

1) to cite evangelical pastors testifying to the legitimacy of Gingrich's repentance, and
2) then to say that even if we don't believe he's sincere, numerous political leaders with seriously problematic morals were key to advancing the Reformation and also the fight against Islam, and
3) also to say that I believe Gingrich is strongly committed to promoting Western Judeo-Christian civilization and fighting Islam.

If the situation were reversed, I would be calling for Santorum supporters to back Gingrich right now in a last-ditch effort to defeat Mitt Romney. Defeating Romney needs to be the goal, because I believe a Romney nomination runs a serious risk of re-electing President Obama.

197 posted on 04/06/2012 4:19:11 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: LibLieSlayer; All
140 posted on Thu Apr 05 2012 15:28:32 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by LibLieSlayer: “by his own admission to Judy Woodruff in 2001... he is a dim in every way but party registration. You Tube has the video if you would like to see it.”

Post the link, please. We need to keep being reminded of such things.

198 posted on 04/06/2012 4:23:18 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

To put it even another way, some of us are tired of the corruption and the illusion of what our founding documents demand.

LLS


199 posted on 04/06/2012 4:31:26 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

To put it even another way, some of us are tired of the corruption and the illusion of what our founding documents demand.

Let me add by illusion, I mean that the dims and republicans setup the government to look as if it were “Of, by and for the People”... when it is anything but that in reality.

LLS


200 posted on 04/06/2012 4:33:04 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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