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To: CatherineofAragon

“Also, like a Freeper said earlier, this is the first time that neither Presidential candidate will be a Christian.”

Not true. The election of 1800 between Jefferson and John Adams was another one, neither of those two believed in the divinity of Christ, the Trinity, the Virgin Birth or Bible inerrancy. Can you be a Christian and not believe?

And if we carefully examined every president and every presidential candidate, how much of true Christianity would we find? Should I remind you that not so long ago, Catholicism was held to be the religion of the Antichrist by great many Protestant denominations? And conversely, are those outside the Catholic Church regarded as true Christians by that Church? It seems you care more about outward appearance and not in what is inside the man.


266 posted on 04/04/2012 1:10:10 AM PDT by Skylab
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To: Skylab

And conversely, are those outside the Catholic Church regarded as true Christians by that Church?


For Catholics, the question here revolves around baptism. Mormon baptism is not, in the judgment of the Church, a true baptism, while protestant baptisms generally are. So broadly speaking, in the Catholic view, protestants are true Christians—Christians who may lack aspects of the fulness of the truth at times, but true Christians. (And if the lack of the fulness is through no willful fault, this may be better than having the fullness and not living it.)


267 posted on 04/04/2012 2:53:21 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: Skylab

I don’t believe Jefferson was a Christian, and I believe Adams’ beliefs were corrupted. However, I believe this election will stand alone, in that we have a sitting president who is either a Muslim or an atheist-—I can’t make up my mind as to which-—and a cult member competing for the nation’s highest office.

Your accusation that I “care more about outward appearance” is utter foolishness. It’s Romney’s APPEARANCE, i.e., portraying himself as a Christian, that’s deceiving gullible individuals. I’m concerned about his RECORD, which is that of a full-out liberal.

Also, likening Protestants and Catholics, both Christians, to Romney’s cult, which denies Christian doctrine, simply doesn’t wash.


302 posted on 04/04/2012 9:14:19 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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