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1 posted on 04/02/2012 4:06:45 PM PDT by gopcharger
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He wanted attention and realizes he is stepping in it.


2 posted on 04/02/2012 4:09:26 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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If you are under duress and screaming for help your voice is going to change from speaking in a calm voice.


4 posted on 04/02/2012 4:21:58 PM PDT by DougSc
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If you are under duress and screaming for help your voice is going to change from speaking in a calm voice.


5 posted on 04/02/2012 4:22:10 PM PDT by DougSc
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And the likelihood that it was the other guy is what per-cent, exactly?

Or do we just assume that the probability that it’s Martin is over 48%?

Sorry, guys, that’s not the way science is done - it’s just about got to be one of the two, and if you’re doing voice analysis, the least that should be done is to do the same analysis on *both* voices, and assess the relative probabilities.

If that was done, and the numbers say it’s three times as likely its Martin rather than Zimmerman, that might mean something. And if it was twice as likely that it’s Zimmerman rather than Martin, that might mean something as well.

But just trying to voice match one of the guys? - sorry, too much possible error to be worth much, IMHO.


6 posted on 04/02/2012 4:23:16 PM PDT by Stosh
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I’m no expert, but...

Wouldn’t a recording of a cell phone conversation

sound different than

A recording of somebody’s voice dozens of feet away from a different cell phone’s microphone?


7 posted on 04/02/2012 4:24:23 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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Comparing a “talking quietly” voice to a person screaming for his life is comparing apples to oranges.

Military has the technology to find Osama’s voice on the phone from a satellite. Something comparable should be used not the results of this junk science that was just created this year, 2012.

9 posted on 04/02/2012 4:29:27 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God anhttp://sanfordfl.gov/inved Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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They are also ignoring the witness that said Zimmerman was yelling for help as he head was being pounded on the ground? An eyewitness is less reliable than this idiot?


10 posted on 04/02/2012 4:34:19 PM PDT by BushCountry (I hope the Mayans are wrong!)
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I'm amazed at how this sound expert is given instant credibility when analyzing screams overheard on a house phone, and yet the many document experts who reviewed Obama's birth records were treated to instant scorn and discredit by the same media.

-PJ

11 posted on 04/02/2012 4:34:38 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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Martin is on top of Zimmerman kicking his ass and we’re supposed to believe Martin is screaming for help?


12 posted on 04/02/2012 4:34:57 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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Unless they can reanimate Trayvon’s corpse there is no way to prove it was his scream. Tom Owen is just doing his best Brian Meehan impersonation trying to get some extra court business.


14 posted on 04/02/2012 4:40:00 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedys float, Mary Jos don't)
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maybe the sound “expert” should ‘listen’ to the voice of the eyewitness who has said he ‘observed’ it was Zimmerman who was screaming for help.

just offhand, Does anyone know at this point if Martin had been told by family in the complex, or by others, who Zimmerman was? Wasn’t Martin supposed to be staying at his father’s fiancee’s apartment? If Martin was staying there temporarily because he was expelled from school, why was Martin’s little brother there, too? How often did Martin and his little brother stay at the fiancee’s? (Shouldn’t he have been home with Mom?) Did the fiancee know who Zimmerman was, and what did she know about the neighborhood watch program? What were her feelings about the program? Did she support it or participate? Why hasn’t she been interviewed? Did Martin’s mother know about the program? Did the father know? Either of them ever participate in a neighborhood watch program? Is there video from the 7-11 that shows Martin either inside or outside? anyone he may have been meeting up? phone record? toxicology? any details like that? anywhere? thanks in advance.


16 posted on 04/02/2012 4:44:09 PM PDT by blueplum
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Who paid the “expert?”


18 posted on 04/02/2012 4:47:13 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: gopcharger

PSEUDO_”SCIENCE”_PING!


21 posted on 04/02/2012 5:09:36 PM PDT by The Duke
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The sound expert’s Resume:

Previous Employment
1. Climate change researcher.
2. Solar energy manufacturing.
3. Community organizer.


22 posted on 04/02/2012 5:23:52 PM PDT by cicero2k
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I think you may be misunderstanding what the man is saying because he’s couching it in the kinds of terms you usually see in courtrooms. What he’s saying is that in an audio of this quality you would expect it to match up about 90% with a voice exemplar (sample of the person’s voice) to be considered a forensic match. Since it doesn’t match 90% he’s saying that with what he considers to be a reasonable degree of scientific certainty, it is NOT Zimmerman

You can argue with his conclusion, but that’s what he’s saying


25 posted on 04/02/2012 6:25:44 PM PDT by Lex Gabba
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I seem to remember the press reporting weeks ago that the 911 tapes were played for Martin’s father. His father said that the voice screaming for help was not his son’s voice.


28 posted on 04/02/2012 8:23:58 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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