[backwoods-engineer]

Martin should not have been killed. You know, maybe shot in the arm to stop him from punching.

Another FReeper who knows nothing about concealed carry or the dynamics of armed confrontation.

You can't just "shoot him in the arm." Bullets don't just stop in your arm.

Plus, in a Condition Red situation, auditory exclusion and tunnel vision occur, along with loss of fine muscle control.

That's why people who are trained to survive gunfights are taught to shoot center mass. It may be all you can do, and it will STOP THE ENCOUNTER.

There's none of this Hollywood "shoot their toe off" crap in a real gunfight. I've talked to people who have been in REAL gunfights. They know.

[21twelve]

BE - read further, I agree. But I think that is why the headline is the way it was - to make the conclusion that lethal force can only be used in a “fear for your life” situation. Here in Washington State one can use deadly force if needed to stop a felony - like assault.

However, as a paunchy old guy, if my head was getting banged on the ground/sidewalk and some 6'2” guy was pummeling me - that would be considered, at the time, life and death. And it could be - one strong punch to the wrong part of the head and who knows what might happen.