Posted on 03/29/2012 9:23:35 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
If you mean “Russian’’, whom are you talking about? The roughly 65% of the population who are Caucasian, as I mean? I doubt very much the other 35% feel about “Rodina’’ as the typical “Ivan’’ does. Stalin saw to that.
I think most of the population are still identify themself to Russians, no matter what ethnicity they are. It is in American interest to keep this way. Russia is a natural ally.
They are a sole superpower of the time who has supported US independence. They were the most valuable ally against nazism and they are the most valuable ally against islam and China.
We have to leave his stupid zero sum game, it is not in an interest of both nations.
When comparing American and Russian weaponry, Americans always love to talk about Iraq war which was totally one sided, but never talk about India-Pakistan war which was more or less evenly matched and American weaponry got absolutely wasted.
The best Soviet military hardware has always yet to be proven in battle.
Natural ally!?! What freakin’ planet are you living on? Russia was an ally’’ in WW2 only by circumstance. Don’t forget that up until June of ‘41 they were allies of Nazi Germany.’ They were our ‘’natural ally’’ during fifty years of the Cold War? Ally’’ my foot. Putin and a long line of Russkie commies did all they could to put an end to us. ‘’Ally’’. What a joke. Didn’t you catch Obamas ‘’open mike’’ gaff? That little Marxist s.o.b. is getting ready to sell us out to our ‘’ally’’.
I take it, you never read anything about India-Pakistan wars.
Look up the definition of a “Saracen’’. Having the will to fight is a motivating factor in winning a war. Whats the sub-text you’re trying to get across pal, you got a soft spot for the Russkies?
Look up the definition of a “Saracen’’. Having the will to fight is a motivating factor in winning a war. Whats the sub-text you’re trying to get across pal, you got a soft spot for the Russkies?
Sar·a·cen Show Spelled[sar-uh-suhn] Show IPA
noun
1. History/Historical . a member of any of the nomadic tribes on the Syrian borders of the Roman Empire.
2. (in later use) an Arab.
3. a Muslim, especially in the period of the Crusades.
adjective
4. Also, Sar·a·cen·ic Show Spelled[sar-uh-sen-ik] Show IPA, Sar·a·cen·i·cal. of or pertaining to the Saracens.
Dunno about “soft spot”. I just dont share your retarded world view that every Russian weaponry is piece of scrap metal. Indians using Russian “scrap metal” have kicked Pakistani butt along with their hi-tech American weaponry.
Number 3 ‘’Muslim’’. A hat-tip to my Crusader ancestors. I didn’t say “Saracen’’ ‘’ meant a Pakistani so twist the issue. Indians fighting Pakis with Russian made crap is a lot different from any other country fighting American made systems manned by Americans. Seems to me you’re the one with a ‘’retarded’’ world view.
The word “Saracen” in most common usage denotes an Arab from the time of the Crusades....regardless of whatever way you want to twist or stretch the definition.
The point is ......when Americans fight with American weaponry and with overwhelming military superiority against puny enemies it is not really a good example where you can judge the relative superiority of one equipment over the other.......hence your retarded world view.......which more then one poster on this thread tried to fix and failed.
” Seems to me you’re the one with a ‘’retarded’’ world view.”
The key phrase being....”Seems to me”
And lastly the Crusades was the one time when the “Saracens” actually kicked butts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Natural ally!?! What freakin’ planet are you living on? Russia was an ally’’ in WW2 only by circumstance. Don’t forget that up until June of ‘41 they were allies of Nazi Germany.’ They were our ‘’natural ally’’ during fifty years of the Cold War? Ally’’ my foot. Putin and a long line of Russkie commies did all they could to put an end to us. ‘’Ally’’. What a joke. Didn’t you catch Obamas ‘’open mike’’ gaff? That little Marxist s.o.b. is getting ready to sell us out to our ‘’ally’’.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
To bring things into perspective you have to note Russians has backed Spanish Republicans against nazy-socialist element backed by Germans during Spanish Civil War. It was one bloody war in ‘30s with Russians and Germans involved from both sides. And prior to ‘39 Russians were seeking French-British alliance to take on nazy. Neither British nor French agreed to take on Hitler and paid for thet later. Soviets and Hitler weren’t allies by definition. It was a non-agression pact. Initially Russians took over Poland, Baltic states and Moldova as a buffer zone against Germans.
And as for a Cold War it was a pretty little episode in terms of long human history.
The majority of Russians hates communism right now, they are white Christian nation with a lot of interests corelated to US interests. A few other major nations like that left.
It is pretty enough to be a good alliance to me instead of playing zero sum games from both sides.
They did until they were defeated. Check out Charles Martel and Vlad Tepes,aka “Vlad the Impaler’’. Got a soft spot for them too, eh? You may have noted but this is not a Saracen-friendly web-site. What ails you dude? You’re contrary to just about everything I say.
Pal, you’ve sure got some screwy version of history. The “Cold War’’ was a ‘’pretty little episode in human history’’. You mean in duration of time? Yeah, sure, ok. Fifty freakin’ years. Right. Let me guess, you’re Russian?
A Saracen is a Muslim. Pakistan did not exist during the time of the Crusades.
Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan weren’t ‘’puny enemies’’. You got some problem with America or what?
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