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To: Seizethecarp
The fact that you are legaly adopted has nothing to do with this case, unless you were adopted in HI in the early 1960’s. I would advise that you drop your continuing claim that your personal adoption has anything to do with Barry's criminal conspiracy to claim HI birth.

If there is any aspect of it that is likely to be a criminal conspiracy it is the manner in which Hawaii apparently registers births which occur outside of it's borders as having occurred in Hawaii. Did you see this chart? (The Daily Pen does some very good work)

Apparently Hawaii is pretty lenient with it's requirements to register a birth there. Not necessarily a criminal conspiracy, but it might be.

YOU have a legally altered BC, not a forged pdf image of a BC. There is no HI statute under which a pdf would be forged to simulate a 1961 LFBC, and in no case would a legal adoption result in the birth location being moved from Kenya to HI, for example.

I have always operated on the assumption that Hawaii possesses SOME sort of document registering his birth in August of 1961. I have long speculated that this document was likely an affidavit of "at home birth" which was filed by his Grandmother, Madelyn Dunham. Even if he had been born in Kenya (Which I very much doubt) the officials in the Hawaiian registrar's office can hardly be held accountable if they were lied to by a member of a child's family.

Hawaiian law DOES allow someone to register an "at home birth" as having occurred in Hawaii, so if Obama was born in Kenya (again, I highly doubt it,) or Washington State, or Canada, or wherever, an affidavit of home birth would still result in a "record" which CLAIMS birth in Hawaii.

If Obama got his previous adoptions annulled, then he could use the data claimed on his original birth record as the basis for generating a new replacement birth certificate, which nowadays would be pasted together by the Hawaiian DOH out of the database of records which they currently possess.

I ask you, who else has access to all the right sources of data needed to create such a document? The Hawaiian DOH creates replacement birth certificates for any child that gets adopted in Hawaii routinely. The documents they produce only need to pass a cursory inspection, they don't have to be perfect because most people aren't going to scrutinize them once they see the official seal.

The Stuff a DOH produces was never intended to survive the sort of scrutiny which Obama's document has been subjected to, and that is why it was quickly recognized as a fake. It also gives us the answer to one of the questions that so many people have been asking.

"If this is a forgery, why did they do such a poor job of it? You would think Obama could afford to hire professionals to do the job right. "

Again, the DOH produces replacement birth certificates, but they don't expect them to be scrutinized to the extent this one was.

63 posted on 03/29/2012 12:35:41 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: edge919

ping.


64 posted on 03/29/2012 12:37:26 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
“I ask you, who else has access to all the right sources of data needed to create such a document? The Hawaiian DOH creates replacement birth certificates for any child that gets adopted in Hawaii routinely.”

IMO, HI DOH would never forge pdf images of LFBCs.

All that was needed to forge Barry's BC was several 1961 LFBC, which were available on the web. There is considerable evidence, according to some affidavits, that some typed characters were lifted from those known LFBC images.

Arpaio has probable cause to show that there never was a paper LFBC as a source of Barry's LFBC, and Arpaio’s computer forensics experts claim that the pdf was on a MAC in the WH 15 minutes prior to the press conference. At a minimum, the WH would appear to be implicated in the chain of possession of the forged pdf image for which there was no prior paper document. This pretty well excludes any “routine” creation of an adoption paper for Barry...especially now that no new paper LFBCs have been created for a decade now.

65 posted on 03/29/2012 12:58:15 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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