Posted on 03/28/2012 12:40:24 PM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
Edited on 03/28/2012 1:00:43 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Sure, grown men scream for their lives for no apparent reason.
According to the report, agents with Floridas Alcohol Beverage and Tobacco division were arresting several employees near the University of Central Florida.
Agent Paul Fleishman wrote that Zimmerman walked up to a pal under arrest and began chatting, refusing to leave. Zimmerman cursed him, Fleishman wrote, before pushing him and causing a short struggle. The charge was later dropped when Zimmerman entered a pre-trial diversion program, which is not unusual for first-time offenders. The program usually entails paying fines and taking classes for anger management.
Zimmerman in applying to enter the citizens police academy later disputed the official version of the event, insisting that the agent never identified himself. I hold law enforcement officers in the highest regaurd [sic] as I hope to one day become. I would never have touched a police officer, Zimmerman wrote.
I’m waiting for the autopsy results as well. That will probably become available when the tox screens come back. Typically a 6 week processing time. We are 4 weeks out now.
I have not idea if the photos of the tattoos are of Martin or not, but I respectfully state that nobody can tell from the three photos you posted.
The "Sybrina" tattoo appears to be on the inside of a wrist, judging from the crease in the skin just below it. You can't see the inside of his wrists in any of the three photos you posted. In fact, in one photo, you can't see his hands at all. In one photo you see the backside of the right wrist and in the other photo you see the backside of the left wrist. But never the inside of the wrist, which is where the "Sybrina" tattoo would be, according to the photo of the tattoo. Agreed?
The second tattoo shown in the photo starts below the right outer shoulder, but it's impossible to tell if it ends below the elbow and, if so, how far above the elbow. You can't see Martin's right shoulder at all in two of the photos. It's hidden completely in the bottom photo, and all you see is shirt in the middle photo. In the top photo, you see a small part of the right bicep above the elbow, and a shadowed couple of inches of the outer upper arm above the elbow. The rest is . . . shirt. Agreed?
I'm not saying the tattoos shown belong to Martin. I'm just saying that one of the tattoos would not be visible in the photos you posted. The other tattoo wouldn't be visible unless it was a lot larger than shown in the photo, and went down to the elbow or beyond instead of being confined to the upper arm.
Are these photos your basis for saying Martin has no tattoos? If so, then I'd say they neither confirm nor deny the presence of tattoos.
from what I understand, at 7:12 he called his girlfriend and mentioned to her someone was following him. She advised him to run and he said he wasn’t going to run, but was going to walk fast. Before the call was diconnected she heard him say “why are you following me”.
Other than Zimmerman’s initial story, there is no evidence to say he “returned to confront Zimmerman”. And as far as attacking Zimmerman, he may have thought he was defending himself or perhaps Zimmerman chased him and tried to accost him and he was defending himself. I don’t buy the story that he jumped Zimmerman after Zimmerman got back in his car and then left and stopped to get out and look at a street sign. The call to the girlfriend was at 7:12. The police were there at 7:17. It just doesn’t add up. Zimmerman is most likely lying to police.
And from the photos released, it doesn’t look like Zimmerman was all that scuffed up when taken to the police station.
read this for more details:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/traynor-martin-arrest-now-abc-reveals-crucial-phone/story?id=15959017#.T3R80dkvGOI
ok, so he went out before the All Star game. it doesn’t change the fact that he was staying in the neighborhood and went out to the store to buy candy. He was doing nothing wrong.
I know a lot of people here want to make this some kind of political, race issue and are trying very hard to make Trayvon look like a criminal, but I can see no evidence that he did anything to deserve some armed stalker trying to accost him.
ok, so he went out before the All Star game. it doesn’t change the fact that he was staying in the neighborhood and went out to the store to buy candy. He was doing nothing wrong.
I know a lot of people here want to make this some kind of political, race issue and are trying very hard to make Trayvon look like a criminal, but I can see no evidence that he did anything to deserve some armed stalker trying to accost him.
“......I know a lot of people here want to make this some kind of political, race issue and are trying very hard to make Trayvon look like a criminal, but I can see no evidence that he did anything to deserve some armed stalker trying to accost him.....”
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I agree that “a lot of people......want to make this some kind of political, race issue...”. But I think that those folks aren’t here (with the exception of a handful of trolls who randomly pop up)
, they’re out in the broader state-run media and Democrat political worlds. And they continue to try to do that.
And I agree that there are folks who were “trying very hard to make Trayvon look like” something he was not. And THOSE FOLKS were again the state-run media and Democrat political worlds. They were trying and continue to try (increasingly unsuccessfully) “to make Trayvon look like” he was a young angelic creature who had the appearance and demeanor of a youthful, clean-cut “pre-teen”. Most of the good folks on these boards were simply trying to balance those false pictures with something the media and Democrats absolutely despise—THE TRUTH. And THE TRUTH is something the media and Democrats (and a handful of posters here) find objectionable since it interferes with their narrative.
“Before the call was diconnected she heard him say why are you following me.
You JUST PROVIDED EVIDENCE THAT MARTIN CONFRONTED ZIMMERMAN IN YOUR OWN POST.
“Other than Zimmermans initial story, there is no evidence to say he returned to confront Zimmerman.
AFTER WHICH YOU SAID THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO SAY HE RETURNED TO CINFRONT ZIMMERMAN!
You are evidence why there should no longer be jury trials lest someone of your keen intellect end up on someone jury making decisions that matter a great deal.
The ABC News propaganda showing him not bleeding AFTER BEING TREATED BY MEDICS was put out just for people such as yourself.
Jesus Harold Christ, why don’t you try and grow a brain.
he apparently yelled to the guy “why are you following me”. he did “not return to confront him”. He was trying to get home and obviously Zimmerman was creeping him out. He didn’t go somewhere and then come back to attack or challenge Zimmerman.
When you used that terminology I thought you were repeating that lame story about how Zimmerman left and then Trayvon attacked him.
Also, if the beating was as bad as some here seem to think it was-—Trayvon breaking his nose and pounding him against the concrete, then it probably would have been more obvious than the police video showed.
I know some people here want to make this some kind of race issue and are trying very hard to make Zimmerman look like a racist for political and personal reasons. You wouldn’t be one of those people, would you?
I see you haven’t bothered to listen to Zimmermnan’s 911 call.
-He ran.-
His head wound is obvious in the video that claims to show no wound.
It’s right there for anyone with eyes to see.
Do you have eyes?
You should be ashamed of yourself.
I don’t even know what else to say to you other than goodbye.
Like Father, like son.
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