Diego,
I was ok with your first two paragraphs, then you took a bad turn (into extreme ‘Birther’ territory), by pulling out the entirely destroyed Dred Scott decision and the slave proponents Taney and Daniel, who in their majority opinions for attempting to justify their demented rationale in support of slavery, went completely out of their way to pull quotes from a foreigner’s writings (Vatel) to justify why blacks/slaves could not possibly be citizens under the U.S. Constitution.
Taney and Daniel were not loyal to the true meaning of the U.S. Constitution, they perverted it’s interpretation (along with their twisted logic and rationale expressed in their opinions) to fit their political agenda of supporting the South and slavery.
The 14th amendment was ultimately a MOAB meant to destroy the entire foundation and rationale that went into that “infamous” Dred Scott decision.
I find it disgusting and reprehensible that those now claiming to be “true patriots” and “defenders of the Constitution”, would resort to rationale and opinion wordings used to pervert the meaning of the U.S. Constitution for the purposes of supporting slavery. Taney could have just declared Dred Scott not have “standing” due to not be a citizen, but Taney/Daniels at the end decided to go further to say that blacks were not meant to be part of the U.S. Constitution and used the Vatel quotes to further their demented claim.
To be clear, I don’t find the folks “reprehensible”, I find the ‘methodology/rationale’ reprehensible.
The point is......the Supreme Court (itself) has validated the source of the term "Natural Born Citizen". The fact they did it 70 years after the framers included the term in the Constitution should be proof enough for even diehard believers like yourself (who insist it means the same as "Citizen")......to see your error!
Calling me a "Birther" is actually laughable. If it's one thing I'm not......it's a "Birther". I don't care where the dummy was born.....he's not a "Natural Born Citizen". It's a moot point whether he was born in Hawaii.....or Timbuctu! His father was a British subject.....which according to British law made him one also. This point alone disqualifies him from ascending to the Presidency! He is not and was not a "Natural Born Citizen". He may have been born in Hawaii. Who cares! He was still born to a non Citizen which then (according to U.S. law) just makes him a citizen.......and not eligible for the Presidency. Why you folks cannot understand this simple concept is totally beyond me.
The fact that I mentioned the "Infamous" Dred Scott decision evidently went right over your head. Sure they were segregationists! Sure they were racists! So what! They identified the source of the term "Natural Born Citizen" and why it was entered into the wording of the Constitution........and they did it under the auspices of the Supreme Court! Would you not believe if they knew the origination of the term......most likely the framers of the Constitution (70 years earlier) probably knew it as well.
Taney and Daniel were not loyal to the true meaning of the U.S. Constitution, they perverted it’s interpretation (along with their twisted logic and rationale expressed in their opinions) to fit their political agenda of supporting the South and slavery.
Why? If Vattel....and his mid 18th century tome did not spell it out......where do you think the framers came up with the phrase? Did they just pluck it out of the air?
The 14th amendment was ultimately a MOAB meant to destroy the entire foundation and rationale that went into that “infamous” Dred Scott decision.
The 14th Amendment does not (for the umpteenth time) mention "Natural Born Citizen" and has nothing to do with the qualifications of Presidential aspirants.
I find it disgusting and reprehensible that those now claiming to be “true patriots” and “defenders of the Constitution”, would resort to rationale and opinion wordings used to pervert the meaning of the U.S. Constitution for the purposes of supporting slavery. Taney could have just declared Dred Scott not have “standing” due to not be a citizen, but Taney/Daniels at the end decided to go further to say that blacks were not meant to be part of the U.S. Constitution and used the Vatel quotes to further their demented claim.
Cry me a river! It was not an opinion. It was spelled out in Vattel's work! You are the one perverting the obvious meaning of those words and attempting to appear "High and Mighty" in your phoney disgust of a Supreme Court ruling which substantiates the very thing I have been saying. "Natural Born" means born of two citizen parents. Elementary!
To be clear, I don’t find the folks “reprehensible”, I find the ‘methodology/rationale’ reprehensible.
I just had no idea you were such a perfect person.