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To: org.whodat

First off, don’t get your panties in a wad, I’m NOT getting personal, and if you have an issue with what I’ve posted, go cry to the mods.

Self Defense is Self Defense. You do NOT know all of the facts, and neither do I. They will eventually be known to all, at least those that can be extracted from all witnesses and surviving participants.

It doesn’t matter how any of us interpret the currently known facts, but to make the asinine assertions you are posting does no justice to either the deceased nor the survivor.

From what we know, it does NOT matter how the “altercation” began, the deceased had NO right to simply start pummeling the survivor, and at that point, he was well within his rights to defend himself with any means at his disposal, IMO. To assert otherwise is insane, IMO.

Would you tell a woman who was being raped that she shouldn’t have been wearing such provocative clothing and that she should just lie there and take what she deserves?

Consider that absurdity of your declaration.


60 posted on 03/25/2012 1:15:48 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox
The wannabe cops has no legal authority to approach and question anyone. That is the facts and that is what happened. Now make up all the stuff you wish, but mr zimmerman is going to jail.
68 posted on 03/25/2012 1:23:40 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Pox
From what we know, it does NOT matter how the “altercation” began, the deceased had NO right to simply start pummeling the survivor, and at that point, he was well within his rights to defend himself with any means at his disposal, IMO. To assert otherwise is insane, IMO.

Actually, it does matter how it began. Individuals have the right to defend themselves from assaults and batteries. There does not have to be contact made for there to be an assault or battery (Criminal definitions, not torts). People also aren't 'defenseless' on the ground, although a lot of people do not have good ground defense techniques.

Now, if some guy is following me around, I'm going to try and first avoid it. Martin did that, based on both Zimmerman's call and Martin's girlfriend's call. That's a smart policy. Zimmerman got out of his car and looked for Martin, for whatever reason. (avoiding the speculation). I find that piss poor judgment at best. What we don't know is how Zimmerman or Martin acted between this time and the shooting.

IF (speculation) Zimmerman was closing into close contact range (you can speak from a distance), I'm going to, based on known action, assume that he has bad intentions and not wait for him to throw the first punch, and I'm going to stop the threat by knocking him out (so he can no longer fight) and going home.

442 posted on 03/25/2012 8:48:21 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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