He was told not to pursue the guy but to wait for the cops. That was his mistake. If he had been attacked in his car, he would have been within his rights to use his weapon, to stand his ground.
“He was told not to pursue the guy”
Wrong.
He was never told not to follow, not “pursue”, Martin. The dispatcher when learning Zimmerman was following Martin said, “that’s not necessary”. Far from an order and the dispatcher has no legal authority to order a civilian anyway.
Do you have an agenda here or are you merely misinformed by the MSM?
He was told not to pursue the guy but to wait for the cops. That was his mistake. If he had been attacked in his car’-——
He was told but told by those who had no authority themselves. He was told THEY didn’t need him to do that...they couldn’t ‘order’ him not to do it. SO WHAT?
He was on the way back to his truck, not car, when the black boy attacked him...
a) A 911 operator has no authority to tell anyone to do anything.
b) Can't find it now, but there was a recording of a 911 call where a woman said she had a gun and was hiding from a burglar and the 911 operator told her not to shoot. So, in this case, when she shot the guy, she was “wrong” to do so? After all, she didn't do what the 911 operator told her to do. What about that guy in Texas that shot the burglars that went after his neighbors home? He shot the guys even though the 911 operator told him not to. Was he wrong?
c) We see all the time after a citizen successfully resists being victimized, the police saying on camera, “Well, we don't recommend people fight back. . .” So, if someone fights back they are wrong? because the police say don't fight back?
We don't know what happened as the stories of the sequence leading up to the first blow being thrown by the thug, but there are a few clear facts, namely, the thug went after Z when Z was returning to his car, and witnesses also say the thug was on top of Z, pummeling him and Z was hollering for help (no one helped). Z defended himself from being possibly beat to death by the 6'2” thug/gansta, or shot when the thug found Z’s gun.
Photos of the REAL thug are most instructive when compared to the supposed innocent 13-yr old in the photo the family released.
If Zimmerman was told not to continue to follow Trayvon, can that be considered in this investigation?
Yes it will; however, the telecommunications call taker asked Zimmerman “are you following him”. Zimmerman replied, “yes”. The call taker stated “you don’t need to do that”. The call taker’s suggestion is not a lawful order that Mr. Zimmerman would be required to follow. Zimmerman’s statement was that he had lost sight of Trayvon and was returning to his truck to meet the police officer when he says he was attacked by Trayvon.
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting.pdf
He was advised not to follow. Not ordered not to follow. I think he made a mistake by following. However, he was well within his rights to do so. If he was indeed assaulted on the way back to his vehicle he has every right to defend himself. Stand Your Ground is irrelevant.
Incorrect. When he said he was following the person in question he was told "you don't have to do that". Very different than being told NOT to follow.
Wrong, if he was attacked anywhere he has the right to self defense, not stand your ground. He was being badly beaten and had every right to use his gun. The kid was the one who made the mistake, in following after Zimmerman had turned back and jumping him. Witnesses put him on top of Zimmerman beating him. Or are you saying that if you piss someone off they have they right to beat you to death and you can't legally prevent it? Just because someone follows you and irritates you doesn't give you the right to follow after them and physically attack them. Kid was wrong, Zimmerman was right.
>> He was told not to pursue the guy but to wait for the cops.
I was under the impression he was not obliged to follow as in: “you don’t have to”
A dispatcher saying that "we don't need you to do that" is not a lawful order. Zimmerman was under no restriction to continue following the suspicious man in his neighborhood.