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To: Oztrich Boy
And where is the bit where Zimmerman is attacked by Martin coming from nowhere and hitting him?

Perhaps you have me confused with another, I have not claimed any such thing.

Did he make this surprise attack while talking to his girl? Or after verbally confronting Zimmerman?

I have never claimed a surprise attack. From the girlfriends statement of the conversation, it appears to me, that the first comment would have been initiated by Trayvon. I have not read any place where we can determine with any certainty who threw the first punch, shove...whatever. I suspect Trayvon did but I have no proof. We have no proof that Zimmerman threw the first, either.

Neither case says much for Z-man's situational awareness.

I suppose Zimmerman's situational awareness is important to you. I wasn't planning on grading him but you are welcome to. It appears to me this whole situation went down rather quickly, shockingly quick.The first call to police at 7:11 and the police are on the scene and Trayvon is dead by 7:17.

And doesn't the supposed attack make the verbal questions a bit redundant? Did Z-man get hit, then ask "What are you doing here?"

I don't understand how the verbal question is redundant, perhaps you can further enlighten me. I believe the facts show that the verbal happened first, who spoke first and then a fight ensued--who threw the first punch/shove, again...we don't know for certain. I think what was overheard by the girlfriend in that phone call gives a direction and timeline. If that is of no interest to you and you prefer to imagine your own scenario, have at it. I find it an important piece of information and I will take it into consideration no matter your opinion. Thank you.

Or did Z-man lie?

The Z-man? I don't know a Z-man. However, I do not know if Zimmerman lied and neither do you--that is a fact. Well, unless you are an official on this case and I should think you wouldn't be discussing this on an internet forum.

375 posted on 03/23/2012 6:10:12 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic
Perhaps you have me confused with another, I have not claimed any such thing.

OK My bad. I acknowledge that you did not make the excuses for Zimmerman. But others have, and I was pointing out that in the complete timeline you posted there is just no way for the claimed actions by Zimmerman to have occurred.

377 posted on 03/23/2012 6:22:46 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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