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To: wagglebee
nursing homes/hospitals can refuse anybody and often they do....

they'll come with reasons why....but if you have a morbidly obese patient, they are hard to place....a patient on restraints..hard or impossible to place in my region....a person who has complicated issues...hard to place....

we don't know the condition of this "willie" because the whole story is washed in secrecy....although after death, I am not sure Hippa still applies.....

was he 450 pounds?...was he on a bipap machine?...maybe had extensive wounds needing wound vacs...frequent suctioning....trach care?...

and if the family wanted hydration, would that require an elaborate IV site and very expensive TPN (IV nutrition)?....

the right to life people are not doing themselves any favors when they paint such a wide brush over these cases...each case is different...

and whatever happened to letting nature take its course?.....the very old and the very frail and the very very sick used to be able to die....

pneumonia used to be the "blessing of the aged"....

25 posted on 03/21/2012 5:14:45 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; Lesforlife; ...
nursing homes/hospitals can refuse anybody and often they do....

they'll come with reasons why....but if you have a morbidly obese patient, they are hard to place....a patient on restraints..hard or impossible to place in my region....a person who has complicated issues...hard to place....

He was ALREADY IN A HOSPITAL.

How many morbidly obese LEUKEMIA patients have you run across?

the right to life people are not doing themselves any favors when they paint such a wide brush over these cases...each case is different...

Yeah we've heard all the "each case is different" stuff before, but the culture of death has NEVER seen a case where they didn't think killing the person was the answer.

and whatever happened to letting nature take its course?.....the very old and the very frail and the very very sick used to be able to die....

Really? Have you or anyone you loved ever been on antibiotics? Ever had an appendectomy? Bypass surgery? Ever taken blood pressure or cholesterol medication? Do YOU avoid doctors no matter what and just "let nature take its course"?

27 posted on 03/21/2012 5:26:22 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: cherry
Over the last ten years or so I have worked with a large number of aged who contracted pneumonia. I have yet to meet the one who considered it a blessing.

This "William" sure didn't.

30 posted on 03/21/2012 5:56:23 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: cherry; wagglebee

How is depriving someone of water and nutrition “letting nature take its course”?


39 posted on 03/21/2012 8:22:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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