Posted on 03/09/2012 1:19:30 PM PST by usar91B
Arpaio on Obama's birth certificate
"Bill explains to a BillOReilly.com Premium Member why he hasn't bothered to report on Arizona Sheriff Arpaio's assertion that President Obama's birth certificate is allegedly a forgery in this excerpt from our Backstage Conversation webcast."
Transcript: Bill O'Reilly- "Erin, Bentonville, Arkansas: Why do you ignore Sheriff Arpaio's assertion that President Obama's birth certificate is a forgery? Well, Because Sheriff Arpaio has not presented any hard evidence to back up his assertion. Secondly, I am very busy. I looked into the birth certificate myself and found out there were two separate birth announcements made in Honolulu newspapers on the day Barack Obama was born. It would be impossible for that to happen unless somebody was 'conspiratorialising' the birth of a little mixed raced baby. If that were happening, then I guess you could have birth announcements planted. But, the odds of that Lil, uh umm Aaron, are about 29 Gazillion to one. Alright..?
This has been covered many times before and it shows that O’Reilly really is not as thorough and smart as we would think or want him to be.
First it does not matter that there were 2 hospitals or 16 hospitals or whatever number. Because the newspapers were reporting the information given by the Health Department who in turn was taking information from Islanders and hospital offices.
As for conspiracy to record a mixed race baby who was possibly born outside the USA? Yes there was a very big motivation for doing so. US Citizen back them was a prize, a gift, a blessing. The grandmother who worked in the Health Department and mother could very well have worked out a plan to get the baby American citizenship because to bring an a baby from Kenya from a mother whose own status was up i the air would have been a lot of red tape with no certainty on a positive outcome.
So one long distance phone call to the grandmother who would in turn fill out the report of a birth would result in a birth registration and this in turn would have been copied to the press.
So just having a newspaper announce a birth means nothing, it is not proof. It would never be used officially to confirm a person’s birthplace.
Next the newspaper announcements never mentioned the baby’s name, only the name of the father and the address where they lived. Islanders usually live in one place all their life in Hawaii. So when a fellow Islander went to check the address of the mother and father on Oahu, they found and talked with longtime resident neighbors that were in August 1961 and did not remember any black mixed baby. They would have remembered a baby, especially a mixed one. But they remembered nothing of the sort.
So there is evidence not to show that Obama was foreign born but that O’Reilly is an incompetent investigator. So this article does nothing for people called ‘birthers’ but it does point to O’Reilly’s lack of smarts.
The other thing here that shows O’Reilly is way overrated is that he said the Sheriff had not shown any evidential findings. Say what?
I haven’t watched O’Reilly in years and feel no desire to have his mug showing in my living room or his arrogant voice heard in my house. He is way past his novelty welcome. He was once a good mouthpiece against the idiotic left but no more.
The Hawaii announcements were generated from the Department of Health. They werent submitted to the papers from the family.
...do you have any proof to back up the statement? Are you aware that the sister’s birth was also reported in HI even though it’s admitted that she was foreign born? Love to see a citation on the above. Thanks in advance.
Any so-called conservative talk person who doesn’t touch this is a gutless ahem-hole.
Some things to consider:
Sheriff Arpaio’s Deputies are career Law Enforcement professionals whose reputations depend on their veracity. It cost the Sheriff’s Office a considerable amount of money to train these guys in Computer Forensics and even more to task them with this assignment. I suppose it’s a matter of who you’re willing to believe; people whose job it is to ferret-out crime or people who are habitual liars?
For one, the column is labeled "Health Bureau Statistics." Also, longtime Honolulu reporter Dan Nakaso said it wasn't possible for the announcements to be planted by family members because, "Under the system that existed back then, there was no avenue for people to submit information that way...The information came directly from the state Department of Health."
Are you aware that the sisters birth was also reported in HI even though its admitted that she was foreign born?
I don't know where you're getting your information, but that's not true.
This is the man who explained away the social security number with this:
Obamas’s father got the number for him when he was at Harvard.
Three problems Bill:
1. Harvard is in Boston, not CT and there is no sign of Obama Senior every living in CT.
2. When Obama II got the number Obama Senior was in Kenya - probably drinking and chasing women.
3. The Fogbow ‘excuse’ is that a ‘clerical error’ was made since CT and HI are only 1 digit difference. So you used the wrong excuse Bill. Did you not get the memo?
Ignore that Obama’s WU friends ran an indentity theft operation in NYC. And what state is next to NYC? Oh, forget it, we know from the your excuse provided above that you are not good with US geography. Here is a hint - CT.
Here is what is true.
If you watched the press conference last week it was indicated that each name was run down.
They found foreign births and birth from as many as 3 years previous in the listing.
Meaning....the list is worthless for anything. It proves absolutely zero of anything.
Nakaso is the same age as Obama. He wouldn’t know what the practice was when Obama was born.
It’s a rare day when I’m called ‘wise’ ... thanks! :-)
Which names in particular did they determine to be from foreign births?
yes...why did he have to point out “mixed race”?
The guy is creepy.
Sure, but it doesn’t look like any of his professional LEO’s had any involvment in this particular cold case posse investigation.
I guess he didn’t read the 10 page report providing the evidence of the forgery that was produced by the Arpaio team.
Please go watch the conference.
It sort of sad to be debunking items when you have not watched the conference.
I am sure Fogbow has a thread on it as well.
I remember the night when O’Reilly had the birth certificate issue in the beginning.
He proudly announced that he had the official birth certificate, and In a very pompous way, he proceeded to gingerly remove it from an 8x10 envelope.
It turned out to be a copy of the original piece of pap...
the certification of live birth that many document experts
have declared to be a fraud.
I did, and they didn't provide any evidence for this claim.
I am sure Fogbow has a thread on it as well.
What? Link?
In Sept. 1959, I was pregnant & the baby was stillborn at 8 3/4 months. Such is life.
I had been born & raised in the Madison, Wis area. I still hade many friends there.
The announcement of this event was in both the Kenosha newspapers, where I lived at the time AND in the Madison paper. I hadn’t lived in Madison for over 2 years.
I think my (then) husband’s family put the announcement into the paper. I know I did NOT do it. I still have a copy of that announcement.
BOR is,imo,A SCMUCK.BOR needs to wipe his chin.
Bill O’ defended Dan Blather’s phony Bash Bush story too. Yet we know who was ultimately right and who was wrong.
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