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1 posted on 03/06/2012 10:22:56 PM PST by U-238
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The similarities between Grozny and Homs are striking


2 posted on 03/06/2012 10:27:40 PM PST by U-238
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Is this another “genocide” like Srebenca? How about that school? Were those Amish?


3 posted on 03/06/2012 10:46:51 PM PST by steve8714 (Thank you, Andrew. I miss you already.)
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It is really stupid to use a satellite phone in a war zone. The government would automatically assume that it was a call between rebel forces. The author of the article mentions that the rebel commander in Chechnya wanted him to keep his call brief - with good reason; Dudoyev, the rebel leader, was on the receiving end of two laser guided bombs in 1996 thanks to his own sat phone use.

As far as Chechnya goes what started as a separatist movement quickly became a criminal mafia movement followed by a war against jihadis in the second chechen war.

The chechens engaged in terrorism against ordinary Russians. There was the train bombing, the metro bombings, the theater disaster, the beslan atrocity, and the hospital atrocity. The jihadis continued resitance, a number of which were foreign, created a disaster in Chechnya with civilians caught between both sides. The end result of their efforts is a broken Chechnya led by a brutal strongman. In Syria, it is the Allawites and the Christians against the rest of the muslims who are religiously motivated. Of course it’s just what we need to have another islamic state in the region suppressing Christians and women.


6 posted on 03/06/2012 11:09:11 PM PST by jimnm
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It is a very inaccurate story in many details.

For that reason I don’t think one has to make any opinions basing on it.


8 posted on 03/07/2012 12:50:30 AM PST by cunning_fish
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WAR HAS NO RULES FOR RUSSIAN FORCES BATTLING CHECHEN REBELS
By MAURA REYNOLDS
“I remember a Chechen female sniper. We just tore her apart with two armored personnel carriers, having tied her ankles with steel cables. There was a lot of blood, but the boys needed it.”
“The main thing is to have them die slowly. You don’t want them to die fast, because a fast death is an easy death.”
“The summary executions don’t just take place against suspected fighters. One 33-year-old army officer recounted how he drowned a family of five—four women and a middle-aged man—in their own well.”
“You should not believe people who say Chechens are not being exterminated. In this Chechen war, it’s done by everyone who can do it,” he said. “There are situations when it’s not possible. But when an opportunity presents itself, few people miss it.”
“I would kill all the men I met during mopping-up operations. I didn’t feel sorry for them one bit.”
“It’s much easier to kill them all. It takes less time for them to die than to grow.”
“So there will be one Chechen less on the planet, so what? Who will cry for him?”

Los Angeles Times, Sunday, 17 Sept, MOSCOW:
They call it bespredel—literally, “no limits.” It means acting outside the rules, violently and with impunity. It translates as “excesses” or “atrocities.”
It’s the term Russian soldiers use to describe their actions in Chechnya.
“Without bespredel, we’ll get nowhere in Chechnya,” a 21-year-old conscript explained. “We have to be cruel to them. Otherwise, we’ll achieve nothing.”
Since Russia launched a new war against separatist rebels in its republic of Chechnya a year ago, Russian and Western human rights organizations have collected thousands of pages of testimony from victims about human rights abuses committed by Russian servicemen against Chechen civilians and suspected rebel fighters.
To hear the other side of the story, a Times reporter traveled to more than half a dozen regions around Russia and interviewed more than two dozen Russian servicemen returning from the war front.
What they recounted largely matches the picture painted in the human rights reports: The men freely acknowledge that acts considered war crimes under international law not only take place but are also commonplace.
In fact, most admitted committing such acts themselves—everything from looting to summary executions to torture.
“There was bespredel all the time,” one 35-year-old soldier said. “You can’t let it get to you.

Russians and the Chechens deserve each other.


19 posted on 03/07/2012 5:25:00 AM PST by tlozo
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This article is just plain nonsense written by a jihadi sympathizing liberal.
24 posted on 03/07/2012 7:26:45 AM PST by ravager
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The New World Order which includes Soros, Bush, Clinton, Romney and Obama, the UN, NATO, and the Muslim Brotherhood sponsored the “rebels” who repeatedly sodomized the lifeless body of Khaddify. I abhor their goals.
Today, the US defense secretary and the leader of America's military said our country doesn't recognize the Constitution because the US is subservient under the UN and NATO.
Bugs Bunny said it best: This means war!
27 posted on 03/08/2012 8:47:00 PM PST by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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