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To: babygene

re: “Isn’t saying that all breeds of people . . .”

Talking about people in terms of “breeds” sounds so, so familiar. I think you’re trying to be “cute” or “coy” with your racial stereo-typing, but that’s just my opinion.

Comparisons of people in terms like the “temperment” of animals, even as a metaphor, lends itself to a de-humanizing attitude. We stop looking at people as individuals and start painting with a very, very broad brush.

As to the thesis that nations ruled by blacks are unstable leads one to conclude that it is their race that is to blame for such failures. However, I think that is way too simple an idea.

African nations are in turmoil and have been for many centuries because of several reasons - one of the biggest being religion (paganism, Islamic conquest, animism, pantheism, etc.). Christianity could have helped stablize much of Africa had it not been for the rise of Islam. The scientific method never took hold in Africa as it did in the western nations - this was also because of the lack of Christianity. I know that may shock some people, but the great advances in science blossomed in the 15th, 16th, and 17th centuries came from the Christian worldview that the universe is rational because it was created by a rational God - that this universe was designed with physical laws and could therefore be studied and understood, that the discovery of scientific truth was possible.

Islam has some of that idea, but not like with Judeo-Christianity. The same types of problems occuring in Africa were also found with the indigenous tribes of North and South America - there had been no scientific progress in these places past a certain point.

My point is that it is not such a stupid thing as “race” that determines a person’s abilities or character - it is culture and religion, especially in one’s world-view of themselves and their universe.

I haven’t particualy noticed that whites were any different from African black tribes as far as aggression, brutality, or political stability during their “pagan white tribes of Europe” era.

In the 20th century, it was one particular “white” culture that was very big on grouping people by so-called “breeds”. They didn’t turn out so well.

“So God created mankind in His own image,
in the image of God He created them;
male and female He created them.” Genesis 1:27

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, and are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights”. Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson.


41 posted on 02/26/2012 5:54:56 PM PST by rusty schucklefurd
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To: rusty schucklefurd

“Talking about people in terms of “breeds” sounds so, so familiar. I think you’re trying to be “cute” or “coy” with your racial stereo-typing, but that’s just my opinion.”

If you read my post #30, there’s nothing raciest about what I said. People from different backgrounds simply have different strengths and weaknesses.

“We are all part of the human race of course, but there are breeds of people and they are all different. Some are smarter, some are faster, and yes some are more prone to violence.” -BG

I happen to be white (European) and a small touch of American Indian... Europeans are not exactly at the top of the heap. The Asians have a higher average IQ, and the Africans, in general are more athletic. There’s no question about these things. Bell curves for different groups (by trait) obviously overlap, but it’s just as obvious that there are also differences.

Nowhere did I suggest that one group was better than another. We all have our strengths and weaknesses. But were certainly not equal in all environments.

So where’s the beef?


45 posted on 02/26/2012 7:25:25 PM PST by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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