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To: Mariner

Totally false. Some of the founders opposed an official state religion. Some favored established religion.

You ought to be ashamed of yourself. In your zeal to defeat Santorum you are mouthing the worst “separation of church and state crap” that’s come from liberal judges over the last 50 years and well nigh destroyed our body politic.

So you don’t like Santorum. Fine, to each his own. But for FReepers to be joining with our worst secularist enemies just in order to damage the primary candidate they oppose is absurd.

Santorum is absolutely right on this point. Religious people and religious views and, yes, organized religion, has a place in the public square. Chaplains in the army, prayer breakfasts on Capitol Hill, faith-based-initiatives today; back in the Founders’ day the churches had much more involvement in government at all levels, initially, as established official churches in some states, even after the 1st Amendment, as publicly religious actors in government at all levels.


47 posted on 02/26/2012 1:45:19 PM PST by Houghton M.
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To: Houghton M.

BUMP!


52 posted on 02/26/2012 1:58:25 PM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: Houghton M.

“Religious people and religious views and, yes, organized religion, has a place in the public square.”

Unless I read it wrong Santorum said that organized religion had a role to play in the operation of the government.


53 posted on 02/26/2012 2:03:04 PM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: Houghton M.; All
"Religious people and religious views and, yes, organized religion, has a place in the public square."

Every thinking person agrees with that statement. But you are not addressing what Santorum actually SAID.

He said he he found it antithetical that the Founders intended that "the church" should "have a role in the OPERATION of the state".

Do you agree with that?

Why not address what Santorum actually SAID rather than what you wish he had said.

No sir, if you agree with that statement you are the one that ought to be ashamed.

55 posted on 02/26/2012 2:19:09 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Houghton M.

The problem is that most of the country doesn’t agree with you. They are seriously turned off by the idea. This (and other stances Santorum has taken) is going to alienate independant voters. Santorum’s branch of the Republica party just does not have the numbers by itself to defeat Obama. We need to get the moderates and the independants behind him to have a shot. Santorum night slam dunk the primary. But Obama is going to laugh at him in the General Election. The more convervative independants might not vote for Obama, but I’m sure a lot of them will stay home rather than vote for Santorum, unless he softens his stance on contraception and the role of religion in government. I know I personally wouldn’t vote for him. I’m not a bigot, and I wouldn’t vote for Obama. I just don’t like someone else’s faith to determine aspects of my life.


82 posted on 02/26/2012 8:26:57 PM PST by christx30
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