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Gun shops are in a double bind. If they refuse a sale, they are accused of racism. If they make a sale, they can be charged with a "straw purchase" setup by bloomberg or "fast and furious" type "stings".
1 posted on 02/26/2012 5:56:56 AM PST by marktwain
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Right, I carry a tape recorder everywhere I go.....just in case.

Recording the sale alone smells setup and the clerk probably checked the residence and found it to be a high rise or a parking lot.

The clerk did the right thing.


46 posted on 02/26/2012 7:23:25 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (NOT VOTING gets 0bamao re-elected. 0bamao's ANTI-TRUTH & SPIN TEAM is again on the move.)
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Regarding the couple making a recording:

Small digital recorders are relatively inexpensive (not to mention that many cellphones have a recording capability).

I’ve read comments on other forums from people who carry them and leave them on all day, erasing them as needed. They do so because they want a recording of events to prove their side in the event of a confrontation with a robber, the police or some trouble maker claiming sexual harassment, discrimination, etc.

Some people carry them and only turn them on as they think necessary for the purposes noted above.

Some carry them to take verbal notes and so forth and might turn them on for the purposes noted above.

Some don’t carry them and wish they had a recording of certain events.

As reported in the story, that the couple in question had a recording of the events doesn’t say much except that we should all be aware that the “other person” might be recording our interaction. And maybe that we should get a digital recorder ourselves.


53 posted on 02/26/2012 7:36:54 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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Their last name, "Miller" is what stopped the sale? I have no idea what 'race' Miller comes from but I'm pretty sure none have flown planes into the WTC.

This doesn't pass the smell test and who the hell records themselves buying something? Try that in Ca. and you will quickly find out it's illegal if you don't notify the other person, unless you're a dem.

While I'm here, $200 for a .22? Really, these people were haggling over a $200 purchase? I've seen people this cheap before when I worked retail, they're the reason restocking fees were invented.

55 posted on 02/26/2012 7:38:50 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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Yep, obviously a set-up straw purchase sting. It may be a reverse sting.

Since Fast & Furious, Gunwalker and such criminal conspiracies by Holder, word has likely spread about the deceit used by ATF and sales personnel won't even trust an ATF OK as it might be a Gunwalker sale and ATF will lie about giving the OK to the gun shop to cover their own criminal acts.

Sending ringers technically over the line for a straw purchase to complain and sue when refused, intimidates the salesperson to risk a questionable sale in the future.

The sales person is stung for complying with the letter of the law.

67 posted on 02/26/2012 8:26:49 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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Bernard Miller says he was told that's because another African-American man with the last name Miller, but a different first name, had tried to buy the same gun at a Dick's Sporting Goods store in Matthews and been denied. ""He was black, and his last name was Miller," he said. "So, automatically they put that off on me."

It sounds like Dicks (heavily corporate) was being paranoid about a straw purchaser which is a big deal. The question I have is was this other Miller at the same address? If so, I'd deny the sale. If not, I would have sold it if he passed NICS. Miller is a common last name, so it's hard to tell based on that alone. I'm wondering what the address is of that other Miller they want to avoid.

80 posted on 02/26/2012 9:43:03 AM PST by Darren McCarty (Stop Romney - Rick Santorum in the Michigan primary)
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Relax folks, nothing, and I mean NOTHING is going to happen to this gun dealer.

a) He was clearly within his right.

b) Since your federal government prefers that black men don't have guns at all(and I don't care who's in the white house or attorney general), especially since they may be the first to 'go off' in a um... non-pro-government manner when more and more people start to realize we're living under a criminal regime. I think they'll just give this gun dealer a pass.

Point is, if your resident media morons think they see racism, it's a story - the truth be damned.

86 posted on 02/26/2012 3:42:54 PM PST by jimjohn
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