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1 posted on 02/25/2012 1:45:53 PM PST by Kaslin
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Rick schooling the Ivy League snob.


2 posted on 02/25/2012 1:47:35 PM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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Nice!


3 posted on 02/25/2012 1:49:38 PM PST by Thorliveshere
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Not the words of an establishment republican.


5 posted on 02/25/2012 1:51:56 PM PST by skeeter
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a snob?

yes he appears to be a snob....he acts the part well....

when he refuses to show his grades...and the only reason he passed his classes is because the leftist professors would NEVER FAIL A BLACK MAN!

so President Teleprompter has nothing to be snobbish about.


6 posted on 02/25/2012 1:52:02 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: 21twelve; Absolutely Nobama; AFPhys; afraidfortherepublic; AmericanInTokyo; ...
Santorum for President Ping List.

FReepmail “Antoninus” to be added or removed.

9 posted on 02/25/2012 1:57:55 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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I don’t like Santorum but that was good.


10 posted on 02/25/2012 1:58:47 PM PST by Irenic
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UMass has long had an “I Feel So Good About Myself For Sending Morons and Psychopaths To College!” Program. My first year there, way back in the 60s, we had two of these on our dorm floor. One was a psychopath who threw live cats off the 19th floor balcony to their deaths and liked to set fires in the dorm. The other operated on a junior high school level socially and academically. Both, of course, were gone after the first semester, but the Liberals felt so good about themselves! Today this program has been expanded to a “Doctorate in Social Justice and Victims’ Studies.”


11 posted on 02/25/2012 2:00:48 PM PST by pabianice (")
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We need to bring back apprenticeships and trade schools. I was talking to a cousin last night and realized that she thinks that factories are full of bustling robots being directed by computer geeks in air conditioned offices.

Even where robotics are used it still takes a fair number of people keeping them running and they don't need college degrees to do it. I'm living proof, a high school dropout who was a factory foreman who had to keep humans and robots operating. I didn't have formal classroom training, I had on the job experience and a natural curiosity.

The single best explanation of America's "Maker deficit" I've seen comes from the Discovery Channel's Mike Rowe.

Mike Rowe on Discovery, Realization and Lamb Castration
12 posted on 02/25/2012 2:02:57 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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“President Obama wants everybody in America to go to college,” Santorum said. “ What a snob!” The crowd laughed and applauded wildly. But the last time ...

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Flashback: 2006, Rick Santorum Wanted To Send All Pennsylvanians To College

13 posted on 02/25/2012 2:02:57 PM PST by anglian
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The myth that everyone needs a college degree needs to be debunked. High school guidance teachers have been "advising" students to take college prep classes for at least three generations.

Could it be an attempt of elitists to turn America into the white college utopia described in Mega Trends, a best seller in the 80s?

14 posted on 02/25/2012 2:03:17 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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The myth that everyone needs a college degree needs to be debunked. High school guidance teachers have been "advising" students to take college prep classes for at least three generations.

Could it be an attempt of elitists to turn America into the white college utopia described in Mega Trends, a best seller in the 80s?

15 posted on 02/25/2012 2:03:29 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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We should call most of them “Internment University”, with the only subject being “obama”...


18 posted on 02/25/2012 2:14:17 PM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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College is a big business.

Government schools are now factories designed to turn out fodder for colleges. Trade schools and High School shop courses designed to develop manual and technical skills have been largely abandoned.

Students who would never pass a college entrance exam two or three generations ago are now pushed into and through college. We now have the world's largest population of functionally illiterate college graduates barely competent to fill jobs as burger flippers. Meanwhile, jobs requiring technical training and skills go unfilled for lack of qualified candidates.

Need for skilled workers remains strong

"The workers hardest to find are machinists — skilled technicians who operate lathes, mills and other cutting tools and can turn a raw cube of metal into, say, a finely grooved aircraft engine part."

"Behind the talent crisis is a cultural shift away from manufacturing and into more college-oriented disciplines, manufacturers say. Kids today still think of manufacturing as smokestacks, when it's more about software-guided machines, says Sweatman, 65, who cut his machining teeth working for GE."

"School officials are measured by how many students they prepare for college, he says."

"They're all pushed toward college," he says. "All your politicians say, 'You need a college degree."

"Psychology majors, history majors, I don't know how many jobs are out there."


19 posted on 02/25/2012 2:16:29 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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If I had a kid, I would advise him/her to attend a Vo-Tech. Either plumbing or electrical.
They make a bunch of money. And people always need them.
They would make a bunch of money while their friends who Majored in Under water basket weaving or Bagpipes are working at McDonalds trying to pay off the massive debt they got.


20 posted on 02/25/2012 2:18:18 PM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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I can go a step beyond this to evade most of college, and its debt, for many people.

Have major corporations and even industries create a curriculum for their employees. It is simplicity itself.

They advise all applicants that there is a *limited* number of specific courses that they must take and pass to apply to work for them, and that they hire for these *courses* only, not entire degrees. The rest of the degree is on their time and dime if they want the whole thing.

And, if students take the courses they demand and are hired, the percent of those loans they took for just those courses will be paid back by the company over the course of years employed.

Importantly, there is no guarantee of employment by a particular company, but a good likelihood of employment by somebody in the industry.

Since universities demand a lot of worthless lower division classes and prerequisites, the industry can subcontract for a few classes that fill in those blanks.

Accreditation agencies like North Central assume students must take entire majors and earn degrees, but corporations can be indifferent to accreditation, as long as students can pass the industry tests.

Microsoft already does something like this, to get MS Certified Engineers. Even if a person has just graduated from elementary school, if they can pass the MSCE, they *are* an MSCE.

Bottom line: this kills off much of the “paper chase”, and saves students a huge amount of money, as well as letting them get two more years of gainful employment right when they are most productive.


22 posted on 02/25/2012 2:22:40 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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As a former academic, I say. But of course. Colleges now sucker parents to send their kids to college expecting to fleece the parents of a year of expenses and/or leave the kid in hock for ten thousand dollars or more in federal or other loans. They do this in full knowledge that the kids has about as much change of graduating as he does playing in the NFL. Vocational education has been shortchanged, largely because so few in public education have any idea of how to make it work. But apart from that, the shop classes that used to teach suburban kids which end of a hammer to hold has disappeared. This despite the need in an age where simple repairs cost a minimum of $50.00 an hour.


26 posted on 02/25/2012 2:33:56 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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If someone studies engineering or some other technical topic in college, are they really being "indoctrinated"?

Other than that I agree with a lot of what Santorum is saying.

27 posted on 02/25/2012 2:40:19 PM PST by wideminded
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The Line of the Day.

Heard it on the radio and it jerked me over to listen.


31 posted on 02/25/2012 3:06:23 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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Just about anything that “everybody” has, is by definition, devalued. The value of a college degree was that it set the person apart from “everybody”. Give everybody a million dollars and it won’t mean much to be a millionaire. But we don’t expect Obama to understand basic supply and demand.


32 posted on 02/25/2012 3:09:17 PM PST by Anima Mundi
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Anybody who wants to go to college and willing to do the school work there can probably find a way. Not all want to nor should those people be hectored into it. There is room for all kinds. In high school one of my social studies teachers actually said he had an ethical problem advising someone how to become a millionaire, because it might well involve dropping out of school!!


34 posted on 02/25/2012 3:29:29 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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