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To Be Black at Stuyvesant High
New York Times ^ | February 25, 2012 | FERNANDA SANTOS

Posted on 02/25/2012 12:51:13 PM PST by reaganaut1

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When the bell rings and the school’s 3,295 students spill out of classrooms into the maze of hallways, escalators and stairs like ants in a farm, blacks stand out because they are so rare. Rudi was one of 64 black students four years ago when she entered Stuyvesant, long considered New York City’s flagship public school. She is now one of 40.

Asians, on the other hand, make up 72.5 percent of Stuyvesant’s student body (they are 13.7 percent of the city’s overall public school population), a staggering increase from 1970, when they were 6 percent of Stuyvesant students, according to state enrollment statistics. Back then, white students made up 79 percent of Stuyvesant’s enrollment; this year, they are 24 percent, and 14.9 percent systemwide.

Hispanic students are 40.3 percent of the system. Currently, they make up 2.4 percent of Stuyvesant’s enrollment, while blacks, who make up 32 percent of the city’s public school students, are 1.2 percent.

New York City has eight specialized high schools whose admission is based entirely on the results of an entrance exam, a meritocratic system that does not consider race or ethnicity.

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No one claims that the disparity is caused by overt discrimination. But in a school that is devised to attract the best of the best, parents and educators alike find the demographics troubling. It has become a question of perception as to who belongs.

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Many Stuyvesant students start preparing for the exam months, even years, in advance. There are after-school, weekend and summer classes run by large companies like Kaplan and Princeton Review, as well as by neighborhood outfits like Aim Academy, in the predominantly Chinese enclave of Flushing, Queens, and the Khan’s Tutorial branch in nearby Jackson Heights, home to thousands of families from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: africanamericans; blackstudents; education; nyc; preferences; stuyvesant; urban
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The Bell Curve strikes again.
1 posted on 02/25/2012 12:51:17 PM PST by reaganaut1
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Admission is merit based at eight schools? What in the world is wrong with NYC allowing that to happen? What an atrocity. Just look at what happened to the racial makeup os Stuyvesant High.


2 posted on 02/25/2012 12:56:38 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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Blacks are so busy hating on Whitey that they are too obtuse to see that Asians and Hispanics are eating their lunch.

Just illustrates how hatred is self-destructive in the end.

3 posted on 02/25/2012 12:56:45 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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Asians, on the other hand, make up 72.5 percent of Stuyvesant’s student body...

Might be due in part to the fact that most Asian families take the education of the children as Job One.

4 posted on 02/25/2012 12:58:37 PM PST by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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Asians and Hispanics are eating their lunch. Really? From where I sit they are getting more "free lunch" than ever.
5 posted on 02/25/2012 12:59:15 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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Those Asian students aren't playing fair! Why should they be admitted just because they work harder than other students? < /moonbattery>
6 posted on 02/25/2012 1:00:39 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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Does “asian” also include Muslims?


7 posted on 02/25/2012 1:02:40 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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What’s more interesting to me is the black numbers. They climbed from 1970 t 1975, during the period when Affirmative Action meant non-discrimination. Then they plummeted even with the quotas from 1975 on. Also, enlarging of the welfare state and further disintegration of the black family didn’t help either. What does that mean? We Ain’t Getting Nowhere with liberal policies, we’re going backwards now.


8 posted on 02/25/2012 1:05:13 PM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: GeronL

Not Asian in the British sense, but what Americans consider Asians.


9 posted on 02/25/2012 1:05:43 PM PST by EEGator
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To: reaganaut1

And 59 percent of students are boys, and 41 percent are girls.

Year-to-date attendance is 97.8 percent. 97 to 99 percent of the students graduate, and the dropout rate is consistently less than 0.5 percent.

What are the important numbers here? Yes, it’s a rhetorical question . . .


10 posted on 02/25/2012 1:11:11 PM PST by FoxInSocks (B. Hussein Obama: Central Planning Czar)
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To: reaganaut1

It’s all explained here, in statistical, data-driven, nonPC terms:

http://lagriffedulion.f2s.com/


11 posted on 02/25/2012 1:13:26 PM PST by bkopto (Obama is merely a symptom of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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“parents and educators alike find the demographics troubling”

Then go to your encounter group and emote for awhile. That oughta do it for you.


12 posted on 02/25/2012 1:18:35 PM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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Years ago I worked for a company in Boston and one of my duties was to make bank deposits each day. This required me to board the local mass transit trolly that ran from my office to downtown Boston.

Much further up the track was Boston College High school. At the time the deposits were ready each day, the school's children would be getting out and going home. The trolleys would be filled with these high school students.

These trains / trolleys are fairly large and each one would be segregated by the students themselves. In one end of the train the black students would be screaming, yelling, running around, making out on the verge of intercourse and rarely did anyone of them have a backpack or carry a book.

In the front of the train were the Asian students. All of them reading, studying, each one with a backpack crammed full with books. Sometimes you would see one or two of them quietly speaking to each other, books open.

I would see this every day, week after week.


One of the main stations the train ran through was Coley Station. many of the black students got off at this stop and quite often I was fights, sometimes huge fights. I remember an MBTA officer ( also black ) telling me “ Every day...every damned day they do this ...”

Is there any other segment in our society that frowns on education?

13 posted on 02/25/2012 1:19:54 PM PST by warsaw44
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Her mother, Annmarie Miller, a nursing assistant at a hospital in the Bronx, recalled a cousin’s reaction when she mentioned Rudi’s pick: “You have to be Chinese or Indian to get in there.” A co-worker, also black, “said the exam is built to exclude blacks because it’s heavy on math, and black people can’t do math,” Mrs. Miller said.

It's amazing the author even put this in the article. This goes to show how racist and prejudiced some blacks are. I wonder how many of the Asian students are actually Chinese. And it's frightening even blacks think blacks are too stupid to do well in math.
14 posted on 02/25/2012 1:30:32 PM PST by Krankor (eenie meenie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak.)
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To: reaganaut1
When I went to Stuyvesant back in the 90's, Asians were a little over 50% of the student population. Now, 72.5%? Geez.

I don't know how I got in - I just got lucky on the admissions test.

15 posted on 02/25/2012 1:40:44 PM PST by LdSentinal
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The Culture Curve. There is no Bell Curve.


16 posted on 02/25/2012 1:57:59 PM PST by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
"Blacks are so busy hating on Whitey that they are too obtuse to see that Asians and Hispanics are eating their lunch. "

Many White youts around here are so busy imitating Black urban culture (rough/vulgar/tough/stupid) that they're missing the boat too.

17 posted on 02/25/2012 1:59:13 PM PST by blam
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To: EEGator
Not Asian in the British sense, but what Americans consider Asians.

The last sentence in the excerpt above indicates that students from South Asia are also part of this.
18 posted on 02/25/2012 2:03:03 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Krankor

I graduated from Stuy in 1970, and perusing my yearbook can report that 48 of 638 (7.5%) fellow grads were black. The school was 99+% male at that point.

Back in the day I never heard of any prep courses offered for the test and most of us probably went in cold and winged it.

I was lucky that my house was 3 blocks away so I never had to endure a ridiculous subway commute like so many of my peers.

As postscript to this article is the continued success we enjoy in the yearly Intel Science Talent Search, a nationwide competition that we routinely dominate. Pardon me while I crow ...

2012 Intel Talent Search Semi-Finalists: 13/300 = 4.3%
2012 Intel Talent Search Finalists 2/40 = 5.0%

For comparison the entire state of California had 10 finalists, 34 states had no finalists and no other high school had more than 1.

Yowsuh! Just par for the course baby ...

Go Peglegs!!!

zig

PS - Go Giants!


19 posted on 02/25/2012 2:10:06 PM PST by zigmeisterxiv
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To: Krankor
And it's frightening even blacks think blacks are too stupid to do well in math.

Well, perhaps the academic inabilities themselves are self-inflicted. Many of the black students certainly don't want their friends to see them "acting white" by doing well in school.

20 posted on 02/25/2012 2:13:04 PM PST by Bob
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