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To: Mr Rogers
And if, at common law, all human beings born within the ligeance of the King, and under the King’s obedience, were natural-born subjects, and not aliens, I do not perceive why this doctrine does not apply to these United States, in all cases in which there is no express constitutional or statute declaration to the contrary. . . . Subject and citizen are, in a degree, convertible terms as applied to natives, and though the term citizen seems to be appropriate to republican freemen, yet we are, equally with the inhabitants of all other countries, subjects, for we are equally bound by allegiance and subjection to the government and law of the land.”

Because it is a creation of the Feudal law system. It requires perpetual allegiance, and does not allow for a subject to remove himself from the King's Obedience. Our war of Independence and subsequent War of 1812 was an overt and categorical refutation of English Feudal based Subjectship law.

What is it about overthrowing English Subject law that you do not comprehend? We BROKE with the King! Don't you get it?

298 posted on 02/25/2012 10:56:46 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“We BROKE with the King! Don’t you get it? “

Yes, I do. But the LANGUAGE of the law, used by men in 1787, was based on English common law. I have NOT said we are UNDER English common law, but that the term NBC finds its meaning in the English common law term ‘natural born subject’ - which was the normal legal term used then.

If the Founders wanted a different definition, then they needed to state one. They did not, and I’ve shown that at least one of the ratify states used the terms interchangeably for some years later.


306 posted on 02/25/2012 12:08:15 PM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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