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To: little jeremiah; christianhomeschoolmommaof3

You can’t even see that you are liberals with a different agenda.

Because you have failed in influencing society, you are demanding that Government step in and force people to behave as you demand.

Like I said. The primary objective should be to change hearts. You do that and abortion ends. If you don’t- there will always be abortion. That is the goal.

If you want to go the “change the law” route (the less effective route), then you have to change the Constitution to recognize a fetus as a human with complete rights. If you do that, all the laws are already in effect to protect the fetus same as any other person.

But demanding that gov’t force unwanted procedures (where this thread and discussion began), is just plain Marxist Socialist behavior- same thing a liberal would do.

Thing is- I’m sure you know it, but you rationalize away that liberalism on behalf of a noble goal is a good thing. I disagree.


52 posted on 02/20/2012 3:50:53 PM PST by elvis-lives
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To: elvis-lives

You are wrong in every point.

1. More people are becoming pro-life, especially among young people.

2. It is the government and government funded agencies who are promoting abortion. This Big Government promoting using tax money doesn’t seem to bother you at all.

3. Being pro-life is a basic conservative position.

4. Hating laws against abortion is a basic Leftist and Libertarian position.

So, you are a Leftist or a Libertarian (but I repeat myself).

You did not answer my quesion, so here it is again:

Then why have any laws at all? Why laws against murder, rape, torture, kidhapping? If laws against killing the unborn humans are “big government”, than it sounds as though you are an anarchist who wants no laws at all.


58 posted on 02/20/2012 3:59:24 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: elvis-lives

Oh, and you are really wrong with this insane claim:

5. You claim that making abortion illegal will not stop abortions. It may not stop them 100%, but it will reduce the number to a tiny amount.

You really, really are on the wrong site.


60 posted on 02/20/2012 4:00:42 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: elvis-lives

Lol!

Until Roe vs. Wade (bad case law) a baby in the womb was protected from murder. What we want is to overturn the bad case law and demand the same protection for unborn persons that always existed prior to 1974.

You are the liberal on this issue not us.

We don’t need a personhood amendment recognizing a baby in the womb as a person. Science and even common sense could tell us that. What we need is for judicial activism to stop and for the government to stop infringing the rights of babies in the womb. By this you are saying that the children in the womb do not have a right to life unless the government SAYS they have a right to life. They have a right to life because GOD gave them the right to life. The government with it’s bad law has infringed the right of the children in the womb.

YOU are the one that doesn’t understand God given rights, natural law and the proper role of government.


66 posted on 02/20/2012 4:05:06 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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