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To: NKP_Vet; metmom; caww; boatbums; smvoice; presently no screen name; Quix; HarleyD

“It is impossible to be Catholic and be pro-abortion. It is impossible to be Catholic and be for homosexual “marriage”...”

If i were an RC i would agree, and also believe that the SSPX and sedevecanstists schism’s (if the former is formally considered such) have some substance to their charges of changes in Rome, though they make their deviation from Scripture more pronounced to me.

I likewise reject the Protestant Jimmy Carter types as being a Christian according to the most basic core essentials.

The problem is that RCs apologists are not simply preaching Christ and a message which places one in the general body of Christ, but are evangelizing a particular Church as supreme and true, and (almost) as necessary for salvation, but the Church they promote effectively does little to nothing proactively (esp. from headquarters) to discipline the Nancy Pelosi types, esp. after the Scriptural manner. RCs can point to official statements on such, but the hears look for the interpretation of such by how it is applied. Moreover, by honoring the Ted Kennedy’s (Masses in his house, etc.) in life and in death she can be seen as fostering such;

That being a Catholicism in which even the most nominal of RCs with their perfunctory professions are given good hope of eternal life via the power of the Church as long as they were baptized (typically as infants) and die in her arms. And with the real concern being shown if they convert and become conservative evangelicals (converting to liberal Episcopalians seems less dangerous) - even if they now have a faith that effects holiness and manifest works in heartfelt worship and prayer, both of which are officially at least emphasizes in RC doctrine.

And if anyone says anything that points out that the overall character of those whom Rome counts as members is liberal, then it and anything that impugns upon the character of Rome is disallowed.

I think this speaks much about the degree of security RCs find in their particular church, which is something we who share a common Scripture-based conversion and relationship with Christ, which transcends evangelical churches, no longer identify with or really promote.

May all come to the Lord Jesus out of a broken heart and contrite spirit, and trust Him to save them by His sinless shed blood.


106 posted on 02/20/2012 5:56:36 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust in the Lord Jesus to save you as a damned+morally destitute sinner ,+ be forgiven+live)
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To: daniel1212

“And if anyone says anything that points out that the overall character of those whom Rome counts as members is liberal, then it and anything that impugns upon the character of Rome is disallowed”

The Catholic Church has been preaching against abortion for the last 2000 years. The Catholic Church stood alone when Roe v. Wade said it was OK to murder unborn children. Protestant churchs went along with it. Episcopalian are the aboslute worst. They take no official stance on murdering the unborn. Same way with letting homosexuals being “ordained” as clergy. The liberals that whine about the teachings of the Catholic Church as being outdated are wasting their time. The Holy Bible is Catholic document, complied by the Church, which existed before the written word. I find it odd that the protestants that love to put down the Catholic Church never out down document that Catholics started in the first place.


107 posted on 02/21/2012 8:46:42 AM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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