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To: MamaTexan

All states since Vermont were created by the Federal Government. The states did not leave the Confederation, rather the UNION transformed from the form of the Confederation to the form of our current Constitution. States petitioned the US Government from Vermont on for permission to join the Union.
When Washington was inaugurated, the outgoing president of the United States, Cyrus Griffin stood next to him. the Union transformed, the Confederation transferred its powers to the new Union by statute. There was no secession of any state. Rhode Island joined the New transformed union last, not liking the tariff status of being outside the new Union, but still retaining ts status as part of the Confederation, they realized the greater perfection of the new form.


251 posted on 02/23/2012 7:34:41 AM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker
There was no secession of any state.

I've posted this before, but in case you missed it;

But the seceding states were certainly justified upon that principle; and from the duty which every state is acknowledged to owe to itself, and its own citizens by doing whatsoever may best contribute to advance its own happiness and prosperity; and much more, what may be necessary to the preservation of its existence as a state.
Of the Several Forms of Government, St. George Tucker, View of the Constitution of the United States, Section XIII

The States seceded from the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union.

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You've yet to answer any question and continually refuse to source anything to substantiate your assertions.

Just blah, blah, blah. This is the way it is because I say so.

Have a nice day.

252 posted on 02/23/2012 8:40:22 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am a ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the laws of Man)
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To: donmeaker
All states since Vermont were created by the Federal Government. The states did not leave the Confederation, rather the UNION transformed from the form of the Confederation to the form of our current Constitution. States petitioned the US Government from Vermont on for permission to join the Union.

You're truly confused.

The PEOPLE created the States. Furthermore, every State that was born after the Constitution was adopted has the same rights and privileges as the original thirteen Nation States.

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These speculative notions may be regarded as having received the most solemn sanction in the United States of America; the supreme national council of which hath, on the most important occasion, which hath ever occured since the first settlement of these states by the present race of men, declared, "that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundations upon such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most "likely to effect their safety and happiness."[9] Such is the language of that congress which dissolved the union between Great Britain and America. Few are the governments of the world, antient or modern, whose foundations have been laid upon these principles. Fraud, usurpation, and conquest have been, generally, substituted in their stead.

When a government is founded upon the voluntary consent, and agreement of a people uniting themselves together for their common benefit, the people, or nation, collectively taken, is free, although the administration of the government should happen to be oppressive, and to a certain degree, even tyrannical; since it is in the power of the people to alter, or abolish it, whenever they shall think proper; and to institute such new government as may seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. But if the government be founded in fear, constraint, or force, although the administration should happen to be mild, the people, being deprived of the sovereignty, are reduced to a state of civil slavery. Should the administration, in this case, become tyrannical, they are without redress. Submission, punishment, or a successful revolt, are the only alternatives.

http://www.constitution.org/tb/t1b.htm

281 posted on 03/02/2012 4:04:28 PM PST by Idabilly (Tailpipes poppin, radios rockin, Country Boy Can Survive.)
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