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Well you obviously haven’t been on any of the child support threads. I have defended women not being lumped into one person’s experience as well. I did say ALL men or even most men on this site. I said so many men as in a shocking amount of men. Quite a few here have been through bitter divorce/custody issue and have some terrible things to say about women; just as terrible as what Cherry said about men.

I just have plenty of bad things too say about any father, mother, or mothers BF who would put their pleasures above that of the welfare and safety of a child. I've spent considerable time inside and outside in the halls of court where such cases are heard. It's sad but it's very often true that short of murdering a child the child will be returned too the birth mother. That is many states official policy.

For what it's worth I'm a step dad who helped raise two step daughters where their dad abandoned his family. Also my wife and I at one point were foster parents in a case involving a mother who put boyfriend first above her kids and allowed abuse. The mother was given a choice him or the kids. She picked him. Guilt was not an issue as it had been admitted and the perp had a long criminal history. Guess what? The kids went back.

Now of all the ones involved in the case I described who do you think the judge almost put in jail? I'll give you a clue it wasn't the kids dad, mother, or perp boy friend. It was one person who had heard & seen enough and had the nerve to look straight in the mothers face in court and say I am very disappointed in you and tired of your behavior. I will not tolerate it. Down went the gavel and a contempt fine with a stern "the next time you say such too her you will go to jail" warning. The judge looked like the town drunk. He showed about as much interest in the case as one.

There is a huge problem out there. Mothers are knowingly and willingly picking Perps over their kids. These aren't messed up teenage mothers doing this. These mothers are late 20's on up. In other words they know better and don't care. When their party time is over years later if ever then they get a group hug from Children's Protective Services and as many chances to do it again next boy friend as she wants. As for the perps? Tall tree short rope solution. As far as fathers who don't care it's going on? Same thing.