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1 posted on 02/13/2012 6:27:08 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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God's Word does not give us a definitive word about the cause of homosexuality,

Like any sin, it's from the pit. It's a choice. “For as he thinks in his heart, so is he.” – Proverbs 23:7

36 posted on 02/13/2012 7:26:22 PM PST by presently no screen name
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Like a million little doorways
All the choices we made
All the stages we passed through
All the roles we played
For so many different directions
Our separate paths might have turned
With every door that we opened
Every bridge that we burned
- Rush, “Ghost of a Chance”

I don’t think it’s one choice, it’s part of the accumulation of hunderds of choices we make every day. How does anyone become what they are? In just about everything, it’s little by little.


42 posted on 02/13/2012 7:32:40 PM PST by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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A lot of interesting comments and insights here. I find it hard to believe that anyone in “fly-over” country in the 60’s-70’s period would “choose” to make their life a living hell, while many did exactly that.

As a heterosexual I do not pretend to understand homosexual at all, but I will say whether its genetic or situational is a fairly moot point. They are what they are and it is NOT a choice unless you live in NY or CA. If you have close friends or relatives that are gay you know this “choice” business is a bunch of foolishness.


44 posted on 02/13/2012 7:43:56 PM PST by MrKatykelly
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I believe they are born with a mental disorder, but they still choose to act upon their impulses.

If you are born attracted to animals and small children, or with an unstoppable urge to steal or to burn things you also have to choose not to act upon those insane impulses.


45 posted on 02/13/2012 7:48:59 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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It has been suggested that there is a biological purpose for homosexuality, linked to one for prostitution. And based on all things, a biological purpose for marriage.

Begin with mammalian reproduction. Males want as many females as possible to have offspring with their DNA. Females both want the best male DNA, and among those mammals that raise their young, the best ‘provider’ male to help them raise their young.

But when there are a lot of males around, it is unlikely that the one with the best DNA is also the best provider.

Humans came up with socially enforced marriage because it is a better deal for all concerned. Greater assurance to the man that his children have his DNA, in exchange for monogamy. And females agree to less than perfect male DNA in exchange for greater assurance the male will stay with her to provide for their children. And the benefits to the children of having two parents is obvious.

However, this creates a problem. That being that while only a percentage of adults *should* have children, many more *want* to have children. But biology does not want them to have children. A conflict.

Enter homosexuality and prostitution. In both cases, they provide an outlet for people who should not breed. This is supported by it being much more likely that both homosexuals and prostitutes have many more genetic and congenital problems than do people as a whole.

Genetic problems that would inhibit reproduction even if they were in a monogamous heterosexual relation.

Because in a way, the biological goal is to keep them from interfering with a breeding couple, which would be bad for the species.


46 posted on 02/13/2012 7:50:03 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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There is far more evidence that violence is related to genetics than there is evidence that homosexuality is. (For example, a much higher percentage of the prison population has an extra Y chromosome than does the general population.)

Does this mean that violence is to be condoned or excused as natural? No. Some of the so-called genetic predispositions toward violence might rather be channeled toward positive traits such as an intense drive for success or hard work or the doing of great deeds. Most of those who possess extra Y chromosomes never commit any violent crimes.

Likewise, even if a genetic predisposition toward homosexuality is ever found (and it hasn’t been yet), that does not mean that those people are destined for homosexual acts—not any more than those with extra Y chromosomes are destined for violent acts. If genetic tendencies toward homosexual acts are ever found, those genetic traits might rather be channelled toward other ends—perhaps traits such as greater empathy for others, compassion for the downtrodden, etc.

Even heterosexuals aren’t given carte blanche for heterosexual sex. If they cannot find someone who will accept them, they are to keep their pants on—genetic tendencies or not. The same is true if they have found a mate, but desire sex with someone in addition to their spouse. Some sex is not acceptable regardless of desire or genetic makeup.


49 posted on 02/13/2012 7:56:56 PM PST by Engraved-on-His-hands
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so only BI-sexuals are perverts by choice then???
50 posted on 02/13/2012 8:06:51 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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If homosexuality were genetic, wouldn’t it die off each generation? Am I missing something?


51 posted on 02/13/2012 8:08:34 PM PST by Paraclete
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The statistics seem to point to homosexuality being a mental disorder caused by being victimized by either a domineering mother or a pedaphile while a child.


56 posted on 02/13/2012 9:03:14 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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.... I do find it rather fascinating how people want to classify everything as fitting into a tidy little box so that it will neatly fit into their belief system.

I love it when you see that, for instance, Alcoholism is caused by a genetic proclivity. This may in fact be true .... but perhaps it may also be said that it is a learned trait ..... hmmmmmm.... yup.... that is also possible ....,. then there may also be a logical conclusion arising from this observation ..... that there may, in fact, be multiple causes that may lead to a certain result. Either that or it is all caused by genetic anomalies .... or all caused by a learned trait .... or caused by (fill in the blank de-jour) All I know is that just because some poor student schlub writing a thesis or scientist seeking to make his mark in a scientific community came to some conclusion doesn't mean that all things are so .... but it may point to a lack of an all inclusive cause for that one thing.

Two weeks ago .... I took my car in to have a tire repaired because it was compromised by a screw left by a careless construction worker. But how could that be? A neighbors tire had to be repaired because it was worn too thin!!! So why do tires need to be repaired? ...... hmmmmmmm....... just sayin

58 posted on 02/13/2012 9:07:15 PM PST by R_Kangel
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Who should a hermaphrodite have sex with? A male or a female? Should they act masculine or feminine? Is it sinful to have sex period if you are a hermaphrodite? And hermphodites are only ONE incident in a whole continuim of “sexualities” that can emerge depending upon whether a fetus is exposed to too much estrogen or too much testosterne during gestation.
Quit judging these people. You haven’t lived in their shoes or their bodies. You are not privy to their brains. Judge not.
ALL sins are the same in the sight of God.
Who among you has not got some sort of “infirmity?”
And yes, I’m a Christian. I am a republican and I’m voting for NEWT.


60 posted on 02/13/2012 9:19:38 PM PST by doc maverick
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If it’s a choice, (and I believe it is) then it’s a very bad and self destructive one.


62 posted on 02/13/2012 9:34:56 PM PST by Bullish (Recovery won't begin until Obama loses HIS job.)
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What difference doesn’t make whether one is “born gay” or not? Merely being born with a proclivity or oddity doesn’t make it any more normal than acquiring it later. And it doesn’t take a scientist or medical doctor to know that men and women are physiologically designed for each other.


64 posted on 02/13/2012 9:53:28 PM PST by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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I think most gays just get sucked into it.


65 posted on 02/13/2012 10:09:29 PM PST by Joe Bfstplk (People should enjoy the fruits of their labor. No labor, no fruit.)
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Placemark


66 posted on 02/13/2012 10:19:10 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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Once the “gay” gene is isolated and prenatal testing is perfected, will selective abortion become a hate crime?


72 posted on 02/14/2012 9:04:12 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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I think that there may be an environmental factor at least contributing to the growing number of male gays.

I think it is related to the use of the Pill. Estrogen is being put into our water sources, from the Pill. The effect can be seen in the fish. See this article below. It is not widely talked about.

http://www.physiciansforlife.org/content/view/1350/36/

73 posted on 02/24/2012 7:25:31 PM PST by bvmtotustuus (totus tuus Blessed Virgin Mary)
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