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Religious controversy burns Obama again (the rookie Hussein is in WAY over his pay grade)
The Hill ^ | 2/11/12 | Niall Stanage, Amie Parnes

Posted on 02/11/2012 6:18:30 PM PST by Libloather

Religious controversy burns Obama again
By Niall Stanage and Amie Parnes - 02/11/12 07:05 AM ET

Chalk up yet another religious controversy on President Obama’s record.

The furor over contraception that consumed much of this week is just one more instance of the president having been put onto the back foot at the intersection of faith and politics.

It’s a problem that previously has popped up in controversies over Israel, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and even Obama’s 2008 comments about people holding on to “guns and religion.”

“It almost appears that every time he tries to steer clear of [the intersection of politics and religion], he steps right into it,” said Susan MacManus, a professor of political science at the University of South Florida. “He’s trying not to call attention to it and then he finds himself in the middle of it.”

Announcing his proposed compromise on Friday, Obama had to emphasize again that he bore no animus toward religious people or institutions.

He referred to the principle of religious liberty and added “as a citizen and as a Christian, I cherish this right.”

Just hours later, the US Conference of Catholic Bishops rejected the plan.

He also recalled his work as community organizer in Chicago where, he said, “I saw that local churches often did more good for a community than a government program ever could.”

These overt professions of Christianity — and of sensitivity to religious people’s concerns — echoed the ostentatious reassurances that were needed to dampen the firestorm surrounding Wright that almost engulfed his 2008 presidential campaign.

The furious response to the contraception decision caught many supporters off guard. One former administration official who has spent time with Obama said he was "a little surprised" by the administration's initial decision announced on January 20.

"He's pretty sensitive to religious concerns," the former administration official said. "He often tries to not be combative."

Cal Jillson, a professor of political science at Southern Methodist University said Obama has a blind spot of sorts for these types of situations.

While Obama has religious convictions, Jillson said, “he doesn’t have a natural feel for the depth of emotion of how some people hold their religious views.”

When Obama pondered the latest contraception decision, Jillson surmised that Obama and his aides may have looked at the polls and said “there might be a bit of a flap but we’re good here.

“But they missed the fact that the Catholic hierarchies had the emotion on their side,” Jillson said.

Obama cannot fairly be held culpable for at least some of the troubles that have afflicted him on religion. But his perceived vulnerability on the issue has led some of his would-be Republican rivals, including Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry, to accuse him of undertaking a “war against religion.”

Gingrich used that phrase during a public appearance in Florida at the end of last month, going on to say that the administration’s policy regarding contraception was “a direct violation of freedom of religion.” (He repeated the “war on religion” charge during his CPAC speech Friday.)

In doing so, Gingrich may have been making a play not just for evangelical Protestants who comprise a significant part of the GOP’s base, but also Catholics who are, as a whole, increasingly difficult to categorize politically.

Catholic voters historically voted Democratic in heavy numbers. But in recent years there has been a pronounced divide between white and non-white adherents to the faith. In 2008, exit polls indicated that Catholics overall went for Obama over Sen. John McCain by nine percentage points (54-45) despite white Catholics leaning against Obama by five points (47-52).

Obama’s own attitudes to religion are intriguing. He has made many overt professions of faith, in his books and elsewhere. (The title of his second book, “The Audacity of Hope” is derived from a Wright sermon.)

While still a senator, he delivered a major 2006 speech in which he criticized progressives for their reluctance to engage fully with those who held more overtly religious values.

“The discomfort of some progressives with any hint of religion has often prevented us from effectively addressing issues in moral terms,” he said. “Some of the problem here is rhetorical — if we scrub language of all religious content, we forfeit the imagery and terminology through which millions of Americans understand their personal morality and social justice.”

Yet, at the same time, he attends church relatively rarely — he has gone 10 times in Washington during his tenure as president — and has also sought to oppose any suggestion that one particular faith should be favored.

Princeton professor Eddie Glaude told The Hill that Obama believes in the idea that “religion has a public role but it has to be reconcilable with democratic principles.” In other words, Glaude explained, he appreciated that faith “does animate — and ought to animate” public debates, but that religious people needed to make their case by leaning upon universal values, not sectarian ones.

Obama also has two additional complications to deal with. His own version of Christianity can seem a good deal more reserved, even intellectual, than the more visceral ‘born again’ brand with which many conservatives, in particular, are more familiar. And, as with any Democratic president, he has to be mindful that a significant portion of his base is comprised of secular citizens.

“If you don’t talk about religion at all, people are going to be calling you an atheist or making up stories about you being a Muslim. But if you do it so overtly that it looks fake, that’s a problem too,” said Laura Olson, a Clemson University professor who has written widely about religion and public life.

This week’s The Hill poll showed some of the complexity of the issue. Forty-six percent of likely voters believed the Obama administration’s attitude toward religion to be “about right”. But more than one-in-three (37 percent) felt the administration was “too hostile.” Only 7 percent asserted that the administration was too friendly.

That kind of mix may buttress Obama’s critics on one hand. Yet his supporters counter that he is doing as good a job as can be expected, picking his way through the minefield of religion and politics.

"Thus far, President Obama has walked this line successfully, as President Bush did before him," said David Meadvin, a Democratic strategist. "He talks openly about faith in his personal life, but has never interspersed faith and policy the way candidates like Perry, Bachmann and Santorum do. Their approach may appeal to a small sliver of the electorate, but I think most voters are turned off by it.”

Jillson predicts this won’t be “the first or the last time” Obama finds himself at the center of a culture war, especially as the presidential election heats up.

“What he probably needs is an office of faith awareness and someone who can probably run up the storm flags every once in a while,” he quipped.


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To: Libloather

“..an office of faith awareness..”

ahhhhh; a “Faith Awareness Czar”, that’s what he needs.


21 posted on 02/11/2012 8:23:35 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: chessplayer

Despite what they said, the administration didn’t change one damned word of the actual regulation. They just put spin on it. Don’t they think that the bishops’ lawyers can read? Journalists can’t, but lawyers can.


22 posted on 02/11/2012 8:31:49 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Libloather

obama is a religious bigot, a racist, a communist, and a closet bisexual.


23 posted on 02/11/2012 8:36:48 PM PST by Castigar
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To: Libloather
When Obama pondered the latest contraception decision

Why is a US President pondering contraception decisions for anyone but himself???

24 posted on 02/11/2012 8:42:06 PM PST by Lady Lucky (Public education -- government cheese for the brain.)
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To: Libloather

Then he compounds his woeful decision problems by messing with Afghanistan combat pay.


25 posted on 02/11/2012 9:06:22 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
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To: bigbob
He knew exactly what he was doing.

This is a necessary camel nose under the tent for establishing free abortion on demand.

26 posted on 02/11/2012 9:11:27 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
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To: Libloather
WASHINGTON -- At the National Prayer Breakfast last week, seeking theological underpinning for his drive to raise taxes on the rich, President Obama invoked the highest possible authority. His policy, he testified "as a Christian," "coincides with Jesus' teaching that 'for unto whom much is given, much shall be required.'"

Having something confiscated from you involuntarily is not a sign of personal generosity or sacrifice. Sharing and giving is. This is even assuming everything the government would do with the money was appropriate - if it is just taken from you on a line on your paycheck, what generosity does that involve? You did not willingly give it or make any decision to sacrifice the money.

27 posted on 02/11/2012 11:24:19 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Libloather

The ‘Anointed One’ had reached his level of incompetence long time ago, but neither he or the left wing news media wants to admit it. Too bad that a good portion of the public have to suffer this imbecile. It will be interesting when a few years from now some of the real history will come out and become public knowledge. Right now more is known about Jesus then about this creature who illegally occupies the public housing project in Washington.


28 posted on 02/12/2012 12:14:53 AM PST by saintgermaine
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To: bigbob

Obama knew what he was doing.

He wants the Church to bow to his edicts, no matter how AntiChristian he becomes.


29 posted on 02/12/2012 12:21:01 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: upchuck

If Obama doesn’t know about it, why are all the ‘Catholic’ democrats in Congress cowtowing behind the President to avoid being labeled as opposing Church doctrine.

Harry Reid, D-NV, said that the Democrat caucus “totally” supports Barack Obama’s forcing religious institutions to cover contraception, abortion-inducing drugs, etc. in employee health insurance plans. And if these Catholic, or Baptist, etc. institutions refuse, they will be forced to pay huge fines, which of course would drive these hospitals, universities, etc. out of business.


30 posted on 02/12/2012 12:28:16 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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Off topic but:

Roger Brooke Taney - (Roman Catholic)He was the first Roman Catholic to hold that office or sit on the Supreme Court of the United States.

Dred Scott decision - In 1857 the Court heard Dred Scott v. Sandford; its decision is considered to have indirectly been a cause of the Civil War.

Pierre Gustave Toutant Beauregard (Roman Catholic)

Beauregard ordered the bombardment of Fort Sumter on April 12, 1861, firing the first shot of the Civil War.

31 posted on 02/12/2012 12:31:00 AM PST by anglian
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To: Libloather

It’s not Christianity he wants to destroy. It’s that damned Constitution and those absurd principles in the Declaration of Independence!


32 posted on 02/12/2012 1:35:00 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

Here he even brags about his intentions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lp8ZESkgIcg


33 posted on 02/12/2012 1:39:10 AM PST by bonfire
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To: bonfire

Yep. I wryly laugh when he says “as it turns out.” So, the “Constitutional lawyer” didn’t know that was how our government was structured before he took office? He’s a lying jug-eared Marxist first, last and always.


34 posted on 02/12/2012 1:53:10 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Libloather

The Kenyan is trashing the constitution along with religion.


35 posted on 02/12/2012 4:23:33 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Like anyone need further proof... nobama hates the unborn, hates the born, hates you, hates your family, hates your freedom, hates your success, hates Free America, hates Americans, hates the Constitution and hates the Bill of Rights. nobama is a hate crime foisted upon America. nobama is the Destroyer . Everything nobama does is intentional. God help us all. nobama is dangerous to freedom and to life. nobama and his minions must be removed.
36 posted on 02/12/2012 4:30:28 AM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Cvengr
If Obama doesn’t know about it,

I didn't claim that nobama didn't know about it. I was speculating that he isn't intelligent enough to make this decision.

37 posted on 02/12/2012 6:34:23 AM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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Obama bows down to Saudi King | American Thinker | April 02, 2009 | Clarice Feldman | Posted on 04/02/2009 8:19:47 AM PDT by rdb3
Obama bows down to Saudi King | American Thinker | April 02, 2009 | Clarice Feldman | Posted on 04/02/2009 8:19:47 AM PDT by rdb3

38 posted on 02/12/2012 7:13:19 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Libloather.
It's a problem that previously has popped up in controversies over Israel, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and even Obama's 2008 comments about people holding on to "guns and religion."

39 posted on 02/12/2012 7:13:19 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: bigbob

There’s been no “accomodation”. It’s just more slight of hand, and carefully crafted statements to fool people into believing that Obama is reasonable and center of the road, and not the extremist that he really is. What a dog.


40 posted on 02/12/2012 1:39:54 PM PST by virgil
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