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Team Obama Fumbles Ruling, Offends Catholics
Townhall.com ^ | February 11, 2012 | Scott Rasmussen

Posted on 02/11/2012 4:56:43 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 02/11/2012 4:56:49 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: narses; Salvation

Ping


2 posted on 02/11/2012 5:02:17 AM PST by verga (Protestant puppies have their eyes closed, Catholic ones have their eyes open.)
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To: Kaslin
Let's get down to basics here. Obama has more than his fair share of sexual deviants on his staff. They wrote the rules here, probably slavering and snorting all the while.

We really do have to imagine them with their gay face on.

They aren't concerned for your religious liberties at all ~ didn't give it a second thought. What they want is for you to focus on their sexual needs ~ or somebody's sexual needs ~ or whatever ~ to the exclusion of everything else.

3 posted on 02/11/2012 5:14:49 AM PST by muawiyah
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4 posted on 02/11/2012 5:37:10 AM PST by I see my hands (The old sod ne'er shall be forgot.)
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To: Kaslin
"The Obama administration recently ruled that all insurance policies must offer contraceptive services with no co-payments required."

Oh! Goody! More Free Stuff. Now you like sex as a means of Entertainment and Enjoyment (Do men get FREE CONDOMS as well?) but I want to go to the theater 4 times a week - can I get FREE THEATER TICKETS? Equal Protection and all that.

5 posted on 02/11/2012 5:53:08 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: verga

they’ll still vote for him in the Northeast.


6 posted on 02/11/2012 6:09:41 AM PST by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: I am Richard Brandon

If anyone thinks this is going to be free they are delusional. The insurance companies have already hinted that they would raise their rates.


7 posted on 02/11/2012 6:12:04 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
"The Obama administration recently ruled that all insurance policies must offer contraceptive services with no co-payments required."

I agree with Rush that this was the end-game. The dust up with the Catholic Church was just a red herring which they know will be forgotten by election time.

8 posted on 02/11/2012 6:23:08 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: Kaslin
Well, everyone who is reality-based already knows that there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

Everything is paid for by somebody somewhere. Raising their rates would be one way the insurance companies would be able to comply with this mandate and still stay in business.

Aside from the financial issue, I object to this mandate on grounds of religious freedom. I'm not Catholic. I don't have any particular moral objection to contraception, though I do to abortion.

I do, however, believe that it is wrong to force Catholic institutions to provide something which goes against their teachings, never mind that many Catholics do practice birth control. It's an infringement on freedom of religion and no such infringement should be taken lightly.

I hope that this issue wakes up a great many people who thought Obama and ObamaCare were just wondermus!

9 posted on 02/11/2012 6:27:15 AM PST by susannah59
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To: Kaslin

He offended me WAY before his fumbling.


10 posted on 02/11/2012 6:43:37 AM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

I’m not so sure. My gut feeling it is the foot in the door along the same path that leads to things like China’s Patriotic Catholic Association. Any government controls on religion will be sure to expand because bureaucrats never think they have enough authority and will always find more things to take charge of.

That means that if they are not stopped at this level, they’re going to start taking an interest in other things, with the ultimate goal of getting a voice, or maybe just an ear (to start) on what is being taught to kids.

Now that should scare the hell out of anyone. If the government gets involved in Sunday School...

I think at the core, all the religions working against this know that instinctively, which is why there is an unusual degree of unity among various faiths in fighting it. They all have a stake in this fight.


11 posted on 02/11/2012 6:46:26 AM PST by Ronin (VOTE NEWT! He's Not Romney! Huh? He did?? Scratch that! GO SANTORUM!!!)
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To: Kaslin

My Gawd Man, you talk about this (the article) like it were an issue where if the president would have only handled this better, everything would go on swimmingly... the hell it would! Obama is a menace to America and her constitution. He seeks to turn our freedom into fiefdom, from where all are free moral agents to, if you live according to his mandates, you will be cared for... the arrogance and deluded self importance of our moral busybody president must come to an end... this year!!!


12 posted on 02/11/2012 7:06:03 AM PST by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Kaslin

Correct me if I am wrong. It’s still a mandate, just switched who pays for it.


13 posted on 02/11/2012 7:18:01 AM PST by duckman (Go Newt...)
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That’s my understanding.


14 posted on 02/11/2012 7:19:50 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: dps.inspect
DESERVES A REPEAT Obama is a menace to America and her constitution. He seeks to turn our freedom into his personal fiefdom....all citizens are "free moral agents" and if you live according to Obama's dicta, you will be cared for.

"Call me Rev Obama. I just got ordained."

"And here's 'Sr Michele' on the day she entered the novitiate."

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....the arrogance and deluded self importance of our busybody president must come to an end.....

15 posted on 02/11/2012 7:27:27 AM PST by Liz
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"Obama is a menace to America and her constitution. He seeks to turn our freedom into fiefdom, from where all are free moral agents to, if you live according to his mandates, you will be cared for... the arrogance and deluded self importance of our moral busybody president must come to an end... this year!!!"

If only FR had a "Like" option.

16 posted on 02/11/2012 9:07:16 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: Kaslin

Liability insurance is generally purchased in order to prevent the possibility of being hit with a huge bill down the line. Health insurance the same. Why would anyone need insurance to avoid the possibility of being hit with a huge bill for contraceptives or “morning after” abortion pills? The bill, if one paid it him or herself, is minuscule. The real nub of all of this is, as always, abortion by medical intervention. Nothing else costs enough to warrant the purchase of insurance.


17 posted on 02/11/2012 9:27:52 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: Kaslin; All
Rasmussen is way off base here, continuing the fallacy being repeated over and over again in the media (yes, Fox too) that this is about "women's health care," etc.

There was no "fumble." Rush labeled it correctly as a "power grab" and an assault on the First Amendment which, if these talking heads keep defining it to the public in the President's chosen semantic method, risks all the individual liberties included in that First Amendment's listing.

The President knows that if he can persuade the Catholic Church and other religious leaders to view his seeming "fumble" as a "recovery" which is acceptable, then the First Amendment's protections for free exercise of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, right to peaceably assemble, and appeal to Government for redress of grievances--all have been forever breached and are vulnerable targets for tyrannical leaders.

Church leaders must take on the task of educating their members on the ideas of liberty--a task their ancestors did not shy from during the revolutionary period. The sermons of those days rang out with appeals for ordered liberty and respect for the "rights of conscience."

Axelrod and the other "handlers" believe they can manipulate the political argument to their advantage. Perhaps they underestimate the voices of freedom in the religious community.

"Although all men are born free, slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant—they have been cheated; asleep—they have been surprised; divided—the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson? ... the people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government, they should watch over it ... It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently free."

18 posted on 02/11/2012 10:23:55 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: personalaccts

Heck in Chicago the dead will vote for him multiple times


19 posted on 02/11/2012 11:04:21 AM PST by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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If Obama can order insurance companies to provide birth control “for free,” why not just go a step further and order condom manufacturers to give away condoms for free? That might go even further toward his goal of minimizing pregnancies. Drug stores could just have a barrel between the cash register and the door with a sign FREE CONDOMS.


20 posted on 02/11/2012 11:19:06 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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