Posted on 02/08/2012 5:46:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
I would prefer the return of the draft, for four reasons: 1) it gives the military a good “slice” of the American population (including many in the universities who would not otherwise serve), 2) there is no reason for anyone of sound body and mind to serve their country in the most basic function, e.g. its military protection, 3) as pointed out in the editorial, it brings the American population as a whole in emotional contact with its military, and 4) I think that from the viewpoint of us supporters of the Second Amendment, it helps us since people in the military are not squeamish about firearms and thereby provides a populace sympathetic for our cause.
Amplifying upon reason #2, I think that all young people should serve their country for at least a couple years and I think that there is no reason why young women should be exempted.
Oops, there should be a “not” after “mind to” in reason #2.
The military, in obedience to the elitists, have had to go globalist, pervert and aggressively anti-Christian-American.
I don’t think this is going to work out well for the volunteer military in the long run. The military will lose it’s reputation as defenders of American freedom and Western character and then that is that concerning the pool of patriotic citizens they used to draw upon for volunteers.
The elitists all know it and want to force military service on America. They need a big globalist military to boss around Americans and the world. But it won’t be the same quality and heart they used to have if the elite keep on the current path of amoral humanism and political correctness.
So does involuntary servitude.
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It’s politically untenable, which is why President Nixon 86’ed it. Mr. Obama wouldn’t have the stones to bring it back.”
Oh, I know that. I was just giving my reasons for the desirability of the draft. Having served when the draft was in effect and working with Harvard and Princeton graduates I know that a lot of good men are no longer a part of the military, which is a shame.
Problem with your scenerio is we will never get a purely military draft. It will be a “National Service” obligation with the option to join the miltary or to “give back” by serving the poor and underprivelaged in inner city make work scams.
I went delayed entry as a junior in high school and then shipped out for basic combat training after graduating. That was 1978. Stayed in until 1983. I knew several people who were upper middle class or wealthy, but I assume those kind don’t join anymore. One was the scion of an uber-rich oil family.
>> The challenge facing the American military today is...
The Left.
The way things are going with all of the cutbacks, I don’t think it will be very long before Americans will not be allowed to serve in the military. All the slots will be filled with homosexuals, warlock and witch wannabes and illegal aliens trying to get on the fast track to amnesty in order to receive a “U.S. citizen” diploma.
Yeah, Zer0 plays b-ball with a couple of them, but deep down inside they know that they're just pawns, getting shot up on a mined chess field full of politicians, that don't really give a sh!t.
Respect and pride in your accomplishments begins at the top, and unless your CiC covers your six, all in our military forces become downgraded and disalusioned.
Bib BS. The main problem with our military is the Usurper in Chief, and politicalization of the war. The last thing we need is a draft.
The elites (especially leftist) would find a way out, and they are the one’s who treat our boys like crap. I’d like to send them all to a work camp in Antartica.
The USA would be better off. They can keep their freakin hands off our wonderful soldiers, and shut their stupid mouth.
I agree. And if there are parades for returning Iraq/Afghanistan vets (and I have not been aware of any), to honor their service and sacrifice, not nebulous victories, there will be an outpouring of affection and appreciation from fellow Americans, not a disconnect.
There was a pretty big one a few weeks back in St. Louis. Drew more then 100,000 people. I think a few other places also have them in the works.
40 years ago, I’m sure the returning Vietnam soldiers who got spit on appreciated the interest in their welfare.
Nothing much changed under Bush as far as repairing damage done in the Clinton years went. Yes it was good to visit injured troops. But the actual monetary and much needed substantial increases in End Troop Strengths were never asked for. IOW a few were ran ragged in over deployment and over extensions. Bush years were ran on Clinton administration End Troop Strength numbers set in 1996 and never increases beyond a low few thousand. When Rummy then Gates was chosen as Sec of Def no change was going too happen. Rummy was a Ford Republican who's tenure in same job under Ford left a lot too be desired.
When not at formally declared war, conscription is not duty, it is socialist slavery, pure and simple.
The REAL liberal complaint against the volunteer military is that they can no longer muster the kind of public outrage against the military that they could when a draft existed.
All attempts to bring back the draft have been started by liberals, and that is their ultimate goal. They want the Jane Fonda/John Kerry sit ins, just like the "good old days".
Regarding your post 48, you can be assured that the upper class and wealthy, and, I might add, the educated, do not join anymore and the military services are poorer for it.
From what I can tell, the military services are chuck full of high school graduates and the very young (18-20 or so), and the very few college graduates in the officer corps.
Not a very good sample of the American public, is it? And that is exactly my point.
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