Posted on 02/07/2012 12:09:54 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Not of course like Gingrich...Oh wait, wasn't Gingrich the only Speaker of the House censured by his fellow representatives after he admitted to the House Ethics committee that he was not honest with them, paying $300,000.00 as part of the sanction? Publicly disgraced for lack of honesty, what a feather in his cap.
Newt was exonerated of all ethics charges. The “public disgrace” is in your eyes only.
I challenge any Santorum supporter to point to any single thing Santorum has ever said or done that compares on any level to this speech.
It comes down to this: Gingrich is hated by too many conservative women to either get the nomination or beat Obama. He might (might) be the better Conservative, though I have my doubts.
Romney’s main weakness, in both the primaries, and particularly in the general election, is his refusal to disavow Romneycare. In the general election, no one will believe him when he will no doubt claim that he will sign a repeal of Obamacare. And Obama will hammer him with his support for Romneycare. Republicans will be dispirited, and Obama gets four more years.
This is reflected in the lousy turnout in any race so far that Romney has been projected to walk away the winner. If he’s up by double digits, his supporters show up, and the rest stay home. If it’s close, or he’s down in the race, conservatives vote in droves, like in SC.
Santorum has had the sense to make BOTH Romneycare and Obamacare the issues, claiming, rightly, that Romney will not be able to take it to Obama on that issue, as he’s already ceded it completely with his support of Romneycare.
Gingrich can’t get elected, and Romney will leave the most liberty-robbing law of all time on the books. This is sinking in, and Santorum will benefit as it does.
Nope.
Here's what the ethics Committee said:
The subcommittee decided that regardless of the resolution of the tax question, Mr. Gingrichs conduct in this regard was improper, did not reflect creditably on the House, and was deserving of sanction.
Here's what Gingrich said:
On Dec. 21, 1996, Gingrich admitted that he violated the House ethics rules and he apologized. With deep sadness, I agree. I did not seek legal counsel when I should have in order to ensure clear compliance with all applicable laws, and that was wrong, Gingrich said. Because I did not, I brought down on the peoples house a controversy which could weaken the faith people have in their government."
Sanctions against Gingrich were overwhelmingly approved by the House, Democrats and Republicans alike, including censure and payment to the Committee of $300,000.00.
Doesn't look like "exoneration" to me.
...and who would that Nun be? Obama’s Nun?
Look, I grew up in Pennsylvania, so I’ve followed Rick Santorum for years. This issue about the school is a bunch of hooey.
It had something to do with the Santorums and their residency, or something like that. It was all drummed up to get him out of office. It was a non-story then, and it’s still a non-story. Frankly, I didn’t pay enough attention to remember the details because it was so silly.
I have to ask you, do you have something against Italian Catholics?
No. I’m not only part Italian, but am Roman Catholic.
None of which has anything to do with my research into all the Republican candidates, none of whom are perfect. But I believe it is important to get information out in front of voters.
Hopefully we won’t make a repeat mistake voting in someone like James Earl Carter, who was such a nice guy and a good Christian. Yech! If we’d known more about the man during the election campaign, maybe he wouldn’t have ended up as President.
I did the same research in 2008 concerning Obama and posted information about him on Free Republic, which was ignored and often scorned by fellow Freepers. This election year I’m more hopeful.
What I definitely do not like is people who self-identify as a conservative politician, yet who’s voting and performance record in office does not to back up that claim.
After examining Romney’s and Santorum’s claims of conservatism and comparing that claim to their performance in office, the gap between claim and actual records in office is huge. The only one that isn’t happens to be Newt Gingrich.
All ethics charges against Newt Gingrich were dropped save one. The IRS investigated that particular charge and found it baseless. Dragging this out in an attempt to divert attention away from the semi-conservative Santorum is truly pathetic.
Your lies have been repeatedly proven false over and over again at this site. Spreading disinformation is sternly punished on Free Republic.
Just don’t support Romney - you’ll be zotted. And next time stick with the whole truth; anything halfway is an outright falsification.
Yeah, I know Pennsylvanians from his district who had supported him and then voted him out because he lied.
So what?
My post is accurate and you know it, your posts are hysterical spin. Gingrich admitted his dishonesty and apologized. It has nothing to do with the IRS and my last post reflects that. Your posts are beginning to sound truly psychotic. And I am not the least concerned with your silly threats.
Here are the facts quoted from “What really happened in the Gingrich ethics case?” by Byron York in the Washington Examiner: Stunned by their loss of control of the House — a loss engineered by Gingrich — House Democrats began pushing a variety of ethics complaints against the new Speaker...It ended with a special counsel hired by the House Ethics Committee holding Gingrich to an astonishingly strict standard of behavior, after which Gingrich in essence pled guilty to two minor offenses. Afterwards, the case was referred to the Internal Revenue Service, which conducted an exhaustive investigation into the matter....the IRS concluded that Gingrich did nothing wrong. Gingrich was exonerated. The bottom line: Gingrich acted properly and violated no laws. But if Gingrich is to have any hope of climbing out from under the allegations, he’ll have to find some way of letting people know what really happened.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2837453/posts
You and Santorum - liars together.
And if anyone some how thinks I am a "liberal troll" (sic) because of my support of the Senator to head off the other three at the pass and then have a good go at Obama in the General, well then, they can take a 50 yard dash off a 40 yard long pier.
We shall see how well Rick Santorum does today in the various states. This California pro-Gay Marriage/anti-popular plebiscite ruling today by the out of control judiciary, as well as Obama's Open War on the Catholic Church, should make for some great market pull today in these various states. Social issues are right up there with fiscal issues, believe me. This country is fully on the way to internal cultural rot, which can destroy in every much way as possible as fiscal quagmire or foreign invasion. History is replete with many examples of great societies descending into the abyss this way; when they lost their heart and soul.
The kids were NOT residents of the school district which paid their tuition. They were not even residents of the state.
If Santorum had admitted to being wrong and repaid the commonwealth that would have been the end of it. Instead, the taxpayers of PA paid for these Virginia residents to attend a PA taxpayer funded school.
That was not a loophole - that was fraud.
Well said and kudos!I got your back.Who would have ever thought a conservative site would call people liberal trolls for supporting a tea party conservative candidate such as Santorum?I watched Perry,and Bachmann get bashed to pieces on this forum.And now Santorum?When did this forum cease being conservative?
If you reason with reasonable people, they will be reasonable back. Is what I feel.
How is it trashing someone if what I say is true?
Gov. Mitt Romney was pro-abortion, pro-gay radical agenda, and raised taxes as he governed Massachusetts in a manner leaving no doubt as to his politcal beliefs. Definitely, Romney is no conservative.
Sen. Rick Santorum repeatedly voted in Congress as a fiscal liberal. If you want to see his voting record I will gladly provide it to you. As such, his record is more like that of a pro-life Democrat who loves earmarks and pork than that of a conservative Republican.
I will also repeat my statement from a couple weeks ago, that should Sen.Santorum decide to run for Gov. of Pennsylvania, won and governed as an across the board Conservative, I would give my unlimited support for his future Presidential run. He is still young and capable of learning a great deal from such an executive experience.
As both candidates have claimed to be Conservative and they are not, I refer to them as liars.
This is called being realistic, not nasty. Since it is also truthful, it is not tearing down another candidate.
I have used the same analysis on Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul.
I do not stalk pro-Santorum threads but I do follow those who tell half-truths about Gingrich, and as many of those seem to be Santorum cheerleaders it is obvious they can dish it out but can not take it.
Of one thing this year I’m certain, American in Tokyo; if we do not elect the right leader come this November, America as we know it will cease to exist.
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