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To: Kansas58

Madison?

You`re a hack. Can`t even peddle and toe the official line of dicta vs. precedent from Barack Hussein Obama merely a weak “ Minor doesn`t say what it says” drivel.

You sure you want to continue to embarrass yourself like this or maybe it`s time you skulk back to HuffPo or wherever you came from?


87 posted on 02/06/2012 7:11:18 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45
Madison says clearly, years after ratification, that the Constitution did not clearly define citizenship issues.

“It were to be wished, that we had some law adduced, more precisely defining the qualities of acitizen or an alien; particular laws of this kind have obtained in some of the States; if such a law existed in South Carolina, it might have prevented this question from ever coming before us; but since this has not been the case, let us settle some general principle before we proceed to the presumptive proof arising from public measures under the law, which tend to give support to the inference drawn from such principles.It is an established maxim, that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place, and sometimes from parentage; but, in general, place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will, therefore, be unnecessary to investigate any other. Mr. SMITH founds his claim upon his birthright; his ancestors were among the first settlers of that, colony.”

http://www.scribd.com/doc/79655719/James-Madison-on-Contested-Election-Citizenship-And-Birthright-22-May-1789-House-of-Representatives Madison has made clear that: 1.) Citizenship had not been clearly defined by the Constitution, and COULD be defined by Congress or the States (at that time, prior to the 14th and 15th Amendments) 2.) Location of birth was the most important factor, in American citizenship law.

90 posted on 02/06/2012 7:21:56 PM PST by Kansas58
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