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To: DiogenesLamp
Ridiculous logic twisting words to meet a desired radical outcome.

Birthers are radicals, and do not respond to reason or established law.

Madison clearly said that Congress needed to act, to better define citizenship.

Madison also said, clearly, that LOCATION of Birth was controlling in America.

(However, Madison would also, I am sure, agree that Congress had the right to establish rules for Censorship for those born on foreign soil to American parents.) James Madison, from the Floor of Congress, 22 May 1789 "It were to be wished, that we had some law adduced, more precisely defining the qualities of acitizen or an alien; particular laws of this kind have obtained in some of the States; if such a lawexisted in South Carolina, it might have prevented this question from ever coming before us; butsince this has not been the case, let us settle some general principle before we proceed to the presumptive proof arising from public measures under the law, which tend to give support to theinference drawn from such principles.It is an established maxim, that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth, however, derives its forcesometimes from place, and sometimes from parentage; but, in general, place is the most certaincriterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will, therefore, be unnecessary to investigateany other. Mr. SMITH founds his claim upon his birthright; his ancestors were among the firstsettlers of that, colony." --- Madison clearly states that Congress has the RIGHT to establish laws concerning Citizenship! http://www.scribd.com/doc/79655719/James-Madison-on-Contested-Election-Citizenship-And-Birthright-22-May-1789-House-of-Representatives

365 posted on 02/07/2012 5:32:41 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
Ridiculous

That is an apt description of ANY conversation with you. I have NO respect for you. I consider you to be a childish fool, and I will not waste my time pondering anything you write. My first impression of you was that of an ignorant loud mouth, and you have written nothing subsequently to convince me (and I suspect a lot of other people) otherwise.

Go bark at the moon.

446 posted on 02/08/2012 12:53:44 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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