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To: BlackElk; All
98 posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:50:47 PM by BlackElk: “Does anyone here from Kansas know in what diocese this evil witch Sebelius resides and who the bishop is? She should be formally and publicly excommunicated. I understand that excommunication is a self-executing thing (latae sententiae) in most cases but the Church NEEDS to hold this evil thing up before the public as poster thing for excommunication.”

Agreed.

I have seen several excommunications over the years. They're necessary in cases of gross public sin. If this isn't gross public sin by publicly threatening to persecute the church of which you are theoretically a member,what else could possibly qualify?

I suspect the idea was to avoid making a “martyr” of this woman by simply advising her of the canon law on the matter regarding automatic excommunication, thereby avoiding drawing sympathy toward her as a “victim.” Maybe that's okay with a pro-choice politician who doesn't make a big deal of his views.

Well, this woman not only makes a big deal of her views but threatens to persecute her own church. Time to respond with a formal public excommunication. Most secularists who are fair will understand private organizations can set their own membership rules, and this woman did take on her own church in public, so she isn't a good example of a victim.

119 posted on 02/01/2012 6:39:07 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina
Your points are well taken.

Avoiding making martyrs out of the likes of Sebelius, John Kerry, et al., has not worked. They should be splashily and publicly excommunicated.

Your point about secularists who are fair is particularly well taken.

129 posted on 02/02/2012 3:03:18 PM PST by BlackElk ( Dean of Discipline ,Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Burn 'em Bright!)
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