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To: Democratic-Republican
YES !
THAT IS CORECT !


There's NOTHING to THINK ABOUT !
The LAW IS THE LAW !

Someone once asked:"Bastard offspring" by definition means the "unfortunate" mother was NOT MARRIED. That statement is IRRELEVANT ! Now for your next IRRELEVANT statement: AGAIN, that "STRAW MAN" IS IRRELEVANT, when it comes to TED CRUZ being a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN of the United States ON THE DAY HE WAS BORN !

You should do better research when it comes to Thomas Jefferson.
Read Thomas Jefferson's own BILL on there "Natural Born Citizen" requirements for the CommonWealth of Virginia: SO there, you have PROOF


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119 posted on 02/17/2016 9:45:55 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
You're conclusion seems to be in error:
...and all infants WHERESOEVER BORN,
In Ted's case: IN CANADA
whose father, if living,
Yes, father is living and NOT a citizen
or otherwise, whose mother was, a citizen at the time of their birth,
His Mother might or might not have been a citizen at his birth.
or who migrate hither, their father, if living, or otherwise their mother becoming a citizen, or who migrate hither without father or mother,
shall be deemed CITIZENS of this commonwealth,

You have misstated Jefferson:

"SO there, you have PROOF that Thomas Jefferson, or for that matter, ANY of the authors of the constitution, would view TED CRUZ as a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN of the United States, ON THE DAY HE WAS BORN !
By your own quoted passage, Jefferson said, assuming Ted's father was a living citizen, (or if his father was dead that his mother was a citizen), when Ted was born, then Ted is just a citizen.

Unfortunately, however, not a "NATURAL BORN CITIZEN of the United States" as you want to believe.

Also unfortunate, Ted's dad is still living and he was NOT an American citizen when Ted was born in Canada.

So...THAT would make Ted a Canadian "ON THE DAY HE WAS BORN !".

Just out of curiosity, what do you call the citizenship of someone who was born here in country to American citizen parents?

120 posted on 02/17/2016 10:20:46 AM PST by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Yosemitest
SO there, you have PROOF
that Thomas Jefferson,
or for that matter, ANY of the authors of the constitution,
would view TED CRUZ as a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN of the United States,
ON THE DAY HE WAS BORN !

That makes no sense.

First of all, PLEASE! I am begging you to post *without* any formatting next time. PLEASE!

Secondly, you are continually, I mean *continually* interchanging the terms citizen and natural born citizen in your posting. You seem to grab every occurrence of citizen that appears in early documents as some kind of pertinent evidence.

I guess you are in good company since both Rush and Levin also interchange those terms, but it is a mistake and you have to face the most basic fact here ... citizennatural born citizen ... everyone knows it, everyone has always known it, at least until this mad dash to revisionism began with candidate Dumbo.

You are defeating your own purpose here, your conclusions are not just wrong but involve gluing together completely different things.

Furthermore, why grab documents from the colonial era when the looser Articles of Confederation were operative, and the people were still citizens of their respective states, and long before the Constitutional Convention which ultimately all these States ratified?

And as you imagine Jefferson supporting anything about Cruz/Canada/NBC, well unless your imagination has him possibly sympathizing with Frenchies from Quebec, even that does not hold water since Cruz was born in what was British Canada.

Partial humor aside, I can assure you that if Jefferson actually supported your tenuous conclusion, his protege James Madison would have quickly set him straight. Did you even read the pertinent information right from the horse's mouth?

125 posted on 02/17/2016 2:56:11 PM PST by Democratic-Republican
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