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To: MagUSNRET

WOw, Santorum just said on Gretas program that his voters would NOT vote for Newt...but that Newt voters would vote for him (Santorum)...OK....to me that translates to...Santorums voters would then vote for wom, if not Rick, MITTENS????????? GOD HELP US!!!!!!


I think Rick is probably more right that not. The majority of his supporters don’t trust Newt Gingrich. They know what Newt was — or what he became — before he was forced to resign in disgrace. Why? He was having an affair while married to his second wife with the woman who would become his 3rd wife — and he could NOT effectively lead the charge to impeach Bill Clinton as Speaker of the House.

Many here on FR have very short memories. Those of us who remember the Clinton years, and the fact that Bill Clinton got away with “High Crimes and Misdemeanors,” don’t remember the fiasco that was Newt Gingrich’s absentee “leadership” during that time. I remember friends taking with me, and we were asking, “where the heck is Newt in this? Why is he so silent?” Well, he was in the back room with Callista — and the Clinton’s KNEW it. You can count on it.

Now, many of the Conservatives who support Santorum KNOW who Gingrich is, and they don’t TRUST him. So, Rick is right. If he leaves the race, I would say the majority of his supporters would go to Mitt. Both Mitt and Newt are Progressives (if you listen to Newt’s words and look at his voting record, it’s clear). Yes, Mitt was MORE liberal on some issues — but he also has more executive experience, and he HASN’T cheated on two wives in the past.

At least, that will be the reasoning of most of Rick Santorum’s voters. If only TRUE Conservatives would have gotten behind Santorum AFTER IOWA — this wouldn’t be an issue. But, they drank the Newt kool-aid. ;-) So now they are going to get Mitt as the nominee anyway — and Obama again in November.


1,139 posted on 01/31/2012 9:05:42 PM PST by patriot preacher
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To: patriot preacher

Check your facts, please. Gingrich did NOT “resign in disgrace” (You have been watching too many political ads, that fail to pass the SMELL test for honesty!


1,143 posted on 01/31/2012 9:08:31 PM PST by MagUSNRET (I have always been proud of my country, it is my government that scares the hell out of me)
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To: patriot preacher; DJ MacWoW; musicman; Jim Robinson

“There you go again,” spreading lies about Newt Gingrich.

He did NOT resign in disgrace!

I think you were previously warned about this.

BTW, Clinton’s impeachment hearing were for “lying under oath” and Gingrich never did that!

Your memory is as flawed as your treacherous comments.


1,147 posted on 01/31/2012 9:16:09 PM PST by onyx
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To: patriot preacher; onyx; MagUSNRET
Santorum is an egotistical snot-nosed punk. His daughter is in the hospital and where is he? Running interference for Romney.

As to your crap about Gingrich, nice job on rewriting history. Good enough to have been written by Pravda. Or Romney.

1,149 posted on 01/31/2012 9:20:06 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: patriot preacher
Short memories? The House of Representative impeached Bill Clinton, Gingrich notwithstanding. It was the Senate that presented a ‘fiasco’. When did Santorum become a Senator? Did he lead a charge to have alll that evidence the House provided to be placed into public evidence....

Misrepresentation of history is NOT going to have me supporting someone who when had the opportunity followed the mouth that spoke ‘Scottish law’ and saved Clinton.

1,150 posted on 01/31/2012 9:21:40 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: patriot preacher; Jim Robinson; onyx; DJ MacWoW

Talk about revisionist history. Maybe you should express your talking points with JimRob.

Damn the torpedoes!


1,157 posted on 01/31/2012 9:30:57 PM PST by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: patriot preacher

I remember some other things about his leadership. 4% unemployment, a balanced budget, spending at its lowest levels in my lifetime. An economy in great shape. A GOP Congress that actually got Clinton to govern as the most fiscally conservative President in my lifetime.

I’d give anything to see Boehner display even a hint of such “absentee leadership”. At least Newt wasn’t crying and rolling over for Clinton at every opportunity. Even Stephanopolous admits that Newt was about to win the shutdown before Dole cut him off at the knees and negotiated his own deal with Clinton to end it.

Newt was actually on the verge in late 97/early 98 of getting Clinton to reform social security and medicare through privatization, means testing and block grants before the whole Monica issue took over and ended any hopes of cooperation.

Newt’s voting record is pretty much the same as Dick Cheney’s. Is Cheney a progressive? If you look at Newt and Cheney from 1979-1988 when they were both in the House their voting records are virtually identical.

Newt Gingrich had 4 years executive exp running the most fiscally conservative and economically productive House in recent US history in many respects. He ended welfare as we know it and got Bill Clinton to tell the country “the era of Big Govt is over”.

Romney had 4 yrs running one of the most liberal states in the country and his big achievement was creating a new entitlemnt that served as the model for Obamacare.

Rick Santorum’s #1 issue has always been abortion. Mitt Romney would be the most pro-abortion GOP nominee in history. Romney was pro-abortion after Roe, after Casey, after Stenberg. While Rick Santorum was battling Barbara Boxer on the floor over partial birth abortion Romney was telling Planned Parenthood he agreed with Roe, appointing pro choice judges to the MA courts, setting up $50 copays for abortion under Romneycare, and appointing PP board memebers to the MA state health payment board.

Newt meanwhile has a 99.6 lifetime rating from the NRLC.

For Santorum and his supporters to help Romney given his history on abortion is amazing to me.


1,166 posted on 01/31/2012 9:49:36 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: patriot preacher; onyx; DJ MacWoW

Zot!


1,169 posted on 01/31/2012 10:50:09 PM PST by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: patriot preacher
ZOT .. LOL

You and Santorum are two peas in a pod.
No, it's not a compliment.

1,172 posted on 02/01/2012 2:45:02 AM PST by tomkat (Romney _ A Whiter Shade of FAIL)
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To: patriot preacher
IMHO, Romney is being set up like a Little League T-Ball for Obama to whack outta the park in Nov.

Not only does Romney’s “coronation” get rid of the Tea Party and “conservatives” for Rove and his RINO Country Club Status Quo bunch, it helps the dems keep the continuity of their “schtick”.

Obama and Romney are IDENTICAL politically, ESPECIALLY when it comes to the VERY important decision on permanently totally repealing Obamacare.

Obama can counter every political Romney arguement with “I know YOU are, but what am I” and clobber him over the head HARD with the 99% crap that he’s a 1%’er.

Geeee....that only leaves ONE “itty - bitty” difference.

Wanna guess what THAT is??????

Try “skin pigmentation”.

It worked for Obama BIG TIME in 2008. Romney is the ONLY candidate they can REALLY use it on because they are identical in almost every other way.

Romney WON'T attack Obama like he has Newt, because they will pin the "racist" tag on him so fast that his head will spin faster that his political flip-flops.

So Myth will "play nice" with Obama, he'll try to get everyone to sing "America The Beautiful" ( the fake crap he semms to be doing at ALL his Florida stops) and get KILLED in Nov, as is the GOP-e"plan" (see pic above), except Romney AND Rick don't seem to see it......YET.

Lil' Ricky WILL be "handed" the VP slot to "shut up" the "Santorum" and Tea Party "Conservative" people and with Romney's defeat, ensure Lil' Ricky won't be a problem to Rove and the GOP-E EVER AGAIN. With the Tea Party out of the way of BOTH parties for 2012 and 2016, Romney out of the way for 2012 AND 2016, the dems TOTALLY despised after 8 years of Obama, Rove and “the boys” can run Jeb for 2016 with NOBODY in their way.

OBTW, The pic below was taken last Friday afternoon Jan27th, 2012 , the day after "Bloody-Up Newt" Thursday by every RINO Country Clubber in this particular corner of the universe.

Jeb & George HW Bush & Obama Jan.27, 2012
Now, Obama has been in office for what, say 3 years?

How many photos of those three together have YOU seen??

Pretty much ALL the polls earier in the week had Newt leading in Florida, until the "suddenly" orchestrated RINO Newt attack which culminated Thursday before the debate, and THEN on Friday, I see THIS photo??

What in the heck could the three of them "constructively" have important enough in common to "get together" and talk about??

Maybe Barry just wanted ask them over to find out how "W" was doin', you know, the son and brother of the two guys in the pic who he STILL TO THIS MINUTE blames EVERYTHING bad that has happened to date in his administration on and two years before he replaced him in office???

Yeah, that's the ticket.

I have an idea, and I mentioned it in the post above the pic..

Newt and Sarah have been TRYING to warn the Tea Party and Conservatives about this BIG TIME!!

(Sorry, but my Reynolds Wrap cap dang near fell off when I saw it.) THIS is why people are upset with Lil' Ricky.

Either he is TOTALLY IGNORANT, or he's "in on the deal".

There is NO in between.

1,189 posted on 02/01/2012 11:18:00 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: patriot preacher; onyx; Jim Thompson; darkwing104; 50mm; stephenjohnbanker; SunkenCiv; ...


So long, patriot preacher (Posting History)

Hat Tip to Onyx and Jim

Mythens troll knows so much that isn't true that it runs afoul of an electric escort off the site





Lying about Newt doesn't make Mythens look any better


Thank you JoeProBono

FReepmail TheOldLady to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.

1,190 posted on 02/02/2012 5:53:42 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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