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To: Wuli

National Popular Vote does not/would not eliminate the electoral college. It does not disenfranchise anyone.

Under National Popular Vote, every vote, everywhere, would be politically relevant and equal in every presidential election. Every vote would be included in the state counts and national count. The candidate with the most popular votes in all 50 states and DC would get the 270+ Electoral College votes from the enacting states. That majority of Electoral College votes guarantees the candidate with the most popular votes in all 50 states and DC wins the presidency.

National Popular Vote would give a voice to the minority party voters in each state. Now their votes are counted only for the candidate they did not vote for. Now they don’t matter to their candidate.

With National Popular Vote, every vote, everywhere would be counted equally for, and directly assist, the candidate for whom it was cast.

The Founding Fathers in the Constitution did not even require states to allow their citizens to vote for president.

The Founding Fathers left the choice of method exclusively to the states in section 1 of Article II of the U.S. Constitution— “Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors . . .” The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly characterized the authority of the state legislatures over the manner of awarding their electoral votes as “plenary” and “exclusive.”


140 posted on 01/31/2012 2:44:03 PM PST by mvymvy
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To: mvymvy

“National Popular Vote does not/would not eliminate the electoral college. It does not disenfranchise anyone.”

It will disenfranchise the majority of voters in any state where that majority choses one candidate, gives one candidate a clear and even potentially a commanding majority of the votes, and 100% of that state’s electoral college votes (not just some proportional allocation) are, by legislatve fiat handed to a candidate that clearly MOST of the voters in that state did not chose.

The enactment of this agenda is an attempted legislative end-run aorund the Constitution AND, potentially around a state’s own voters.

It will lose in the courts.


152 posted on 02/01/2012 9:16:20 AM PST by Wuli
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To: mvymvy

“The Founding Fathers in the Constitution did not even require states to allow their citizens to vote for president.”

The “national popular vote” agenda is not about the “state legislatures making a choice”.

It is about state legislatures holding their own citizens to their state NOT “making a choice” but abandoning their own state’s selection of an actual choice, deferring by fiat to a “choice” set completely beyond their own control, remitting state sovereinty to a “national popular vote”.

Its an abomination againt original intent.

It will be struck down.


153 posted on 02/01/2012 9:23:04 AM PST by Wuli
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