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To: fight_truth_decay

Hell, I’ve been beat up by FREEPERS for opining that unless someone had some sort of work history over the last 6 months, they wouldn’t be hired, and rightly so in most cases. Those that want to work will find something even if it’s only some day jobs to supplement themselves. I also got beat on for “demeaning” a guy and his father for hiring them to do my lawn and for other work. I was asked if I gave them minumum wage to rub it in - actually paid $15/hr for unskilled labor and paid $75 to do the lawn which takes me less than 2 hours by myself.


23 posted on 01/29/2012 4:16:03 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: trebb
I’ve been beat up by FREEPERS for opining

Funny when I read you in my Ping I had just been discussing in Mail with another FReeper that "beat up mentality" scenario going on in the extreme. Have changed the types of stories now posted to get some real discussion not a frantic feeding frenzy on any one who does not opine as they do. Sorry off subject

I have given home remodeling jobs I would not have done if a person I know and sometimes a helper were not suffering so, and I invest more in the house. They spent what they made over the years when times in construction were great for them and they could pick and choose jobs, often taking a high profile client over an average homeowner, did not even call back clients--now these snubbed clients, which are many, are not calling [their payback], and they are broke--really broke ..so being the talented craftsman I know one to be, and a good person, just bad business sense..I gave him work..but that was all last year..and am done. I paid them well, but have in the quote timeframe negotiate at ballpark quotes. I pay the lumberyard separately. Then there are these construction guys who banded together, as were friendly in the same field..they treat every customer big or small with professionalism. They are booked solid on big projects..in fact one client [we have a lot of CIA in our area] was giving them work and called and said think I need a stair case here, this builder said you do not need this staircase, and the client said I want to keep you working, the builder said I have plenty of work and will be available when you really need me. Story goes some have burned too many bridges that cannot be rebuilt as before.

So I applaud you for giving work, and am sure they appreciated the extra money. Lawn work can pays well. Falls under Landscaping for a more PC term. ;)

#1 builder is a Republican. #2 builders are Independents. There is definitely hypocrisy going on here.

The people I know hired off other companies in the last few years had backgrounds in engineering, in one case along with that a masters in finance; are in sales on the Telecommunications supplier side with big salary increases to come on with. Those people are always being called by head hunters and would say are in the late 30's, 40's age group. They can pretty much make decisions now on where they want to stay and raise a family, work from the home a good amount of the time with some travel, but can still coach a youth soccer team and spend quality time with the family.And as often as possible, Church on Sunday Morning with contributions of time and money to that church. They have taught their young children about charity. They find themselves paying more and more in the form of taxes in their percentage:income etc taxed to support entitlements or just wasteful spending continuing as in past stimulus programs etc.

30 posted on 01/29/2012 9:13:15 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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