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To: Bishop_Malachi
So are you the thought-police now?

I assume this question is provoked by my screen name. I'm not Jewish; I'm an ordinary Bible-thumping "redneck" who supports Israel for religious reasons. Furthermore I have absolutely no authority on this forum whatsoever. So please abandon any suspicions that I am FR's overlord from the Mossad. Okay?

Who cares if he hates Jews with a passion so long as he doesn’t treat them any differently under the law than anyone else (or advocate laws that discriminate against them). Now, that being said, I’m not saying that he does hate Jews, but what if he does. Do you have to like everone and everything so long as you believe in highly limited government and sound-money policy?

There is some merit to what you are saying. There are Jews who support him precisely because he will disentangle America from Israel, thus giving Israel a freer hand than it has yet had. And I agree, a libertarian isn't really going to do anything to anyone. HOWEVER--there is the problem that Paul has been identified as a white nationalist, not by the enemies of white nationalism, but by white nationalists themselves, including Don Black of Stormfront and the American National Socialist Workers Party. Now, whether or not a libertarian would implement any anti-Jewish policies may be debatable, but the very idea of an anti-Semitic "white nationalist" as President of the United States is offensive to some of us to whom anti-Semitism isn't "bigotry" or "intolerance" or any other such liberal buzzword, but rather sacrilege--an offense against the Jewish G-d. Just as America invites Divine judgment if it legalizes "gay marriage," so it may very well invite Divine judgment if it elects a person with such beliefs, whether or not he allows those beliefs to dictate his policies.

"Sound money" is inoffensive in itself, but you should also realize that much of the invective against "fiat money" and "international money creators" comes from anti-Semites. And I'm not just making that up. Listen, I used to belong to the John Birch Society (which is supporting Paul). I learned my lesson there.

While it is true that the German National Socialists were centralizers and totalitarians, you should know that the rhetoric of domestic national socialists does not stress centralization or totalitarianism, but rather just fulminates against Jews. Willis Carto (who is a national socialist) supported states' righter George Wallace in 1968 because his priority was supporting white racial solidarity, not centralization. Unfortunately, many well-meaning conservatives don't understand this. They define national socialism solely by the government in Germany from 1933 to 1945 and assume that unless someone advocates absolutely identical policies, one cannot be a national socialist. There are plenty of domestic national socialist organizations and they stress racial issues, not the size of government.

I’m not a big fan of homosexual-activists, but I don’t want them burned, publicly humiliated, or imprisoned.

See above.

Ron Paul is a dove and perhaps to a fault, but he is not a nazi. Sheesh, the stuff that gets promulgated around here is truly bizarro at times. I mean, I can see Paul being accused of being a libertine, degenerate, and moral reprobate before I can see him being called a nazi.

As I stated, someone who is identified as a white nationalist by white nationalists probably is one. And someone who promotes the Protocols is a Nazi, whether he is a libertarian or totalitarian, centralist or federalist.

52 posted on 01/29/2012 4:22:01 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Look lets not confuse ignorant white-supremists with real Nazis. Real Nazis are “National Socialists” with a key component being an imposition of racial-exclusive domination from the top down.

A guy who is truly a states-rights supporter will doom nazism to an inevitable death since it is not something the majority of Americans will ever accept. All supporting states-rights will accomplish for an idiot like Carto is keep it [racism] isolated to some areas of some states.

For the record, I support Israel too. But that support merely means that they have a right to exist. It does not mean that I’m uncritical of their actions. I simply see no evidence to jump to the conclusion that Paul hates Jews...and I mean hates them as a people. He may dislike some of Israel’s policies. He may dislike what he perceives to be undue political influence from jewish moneyed-interest . There is, however, little reason to think that he will promote, much less embrace any policy that intentionally brings harm to Jews.


64 posted on 01/29/2012 8:04:54 PM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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