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Illinois tries again to ban so-called 'assault weapons,' .50 caliber rifles
St. Louis Gun Rights Examiner ^
| 26 January, 2012
| Kurt Hofmann
Posted on 01/27/2012 10:56:07 AM PST by marktwain
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The concept that the government could or should only allow certain people to buy guns stands the very concept of American jurisprudence on its head. It presumes that the government knows all, controls all, and should be doing so. It is wrong and ineffective. It is the opposite of preventing criminals from possessing guns.
It is crazy to set up a huge expensive bureaucratic system, require everyone to jump though hoops and prove that they are *not* criminals in order to try, ineffectively, to prevent the few individuals who are not responsible, from having legal access to guns. This is a failed paradigm, and it should be abandoned. To accept the idea that the all gun sales should be monitored by the government, and only allowed to those it deems satisfactory is fundamentally wrong.
The entire idea of the enterprise has always been the death of a thousand cuts, where the restrictions on who can buy, and where, and how and what are continually increased until the number of gun owners is reduced to political insignificance.
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posted on
01/27/2012 10:56:20 AM PST
by
marktwain
To: marktwain
.50 cal..... that is for pikers... I just saw a video with a guy that made and was firing a .94 cal. rifle..... now there is a nice little squirrel gun!!!
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posted on
01/27/2012 11:01:32 AM PST
by
joe fonebone
(Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
To: marktwain
"High capacity ammunition" means ammunition of 50 or more caliber. Lack of Constitutionality aside, the Bill appears to have been written by an imbecile.
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posted on
01/27/2012 11:02:14 AM PST
by
WayneS
(Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
To: marktwain
...uhmmm...Rock River Arms 50% off “moving sale”?
I’m in.
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posted on
01/27/2012 11:04:13 AM PST
by
moovova
(I call the new CFL light bulbs..."Obama Bulbs"...because they're not too bright.)
To: marktwain
California banned .50 caliber rifles a few years back - thank you, Arnold Kennedy...err, Scwerzenemall.
Why? Because someone might shoot down an airliner with a single shot from a .50 caliber rifle.
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posted on
01/27/2012 11:07:11 AM PST
by
MeganC
(No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
To: joe fonebone; marktwain
"High capacity ammunition" means ammunition of 50 or more caliber. That doesn't just exclude the big .50 BMG round. It also bars the Desert Eagle .50 Action Express handgun round, and the Smith & Wesson .500 S&W Magnum revolver cartridge.
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posted on
01/27/2012 11:12:52 AM PST
by
PapaBear3625
(During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
To: PapaBear3625
You forgot .50 caliber black powder muzzle-loaders.
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posted on
01/27/2012 11:16:07 AM PST
by
Nachoman
(I HOPE we CHANGE presidents.)
To: MeganC
California banned .50 caliber rifles a few years back - thank you, Arnold Kennedy...err, Scwerzenemall.Why? Because someone might shoot down an airliner with a single shot from a .50 caliber rifle.
The best part of that whole fiasco was that Ronnie Barrett made a public statement that Barrett Firearms would no longer sell to, support, nor service any Barrett rifle owned by any municipality or state law enforcement agency in CA as a result.
Mark
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posted on
01/27/2012 11:17:35 AM PST
by
MarkL
(Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
To: MeganC
Why? Because someone might shoot down an airliner with a single shot from a .50 caliber rifle. While aiming a laser pointer at the cockpit is so much cheaper, easier, and quieter.....
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posted on
01/27/2012 11:18:20 AM PST
by
Niteranger68
(When voting, if you are not willing to work in the kitchen, order from the menu.)
To: Nachoman
Also shotguns can be considered as over .50 cal.
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posted on
01/27/2012 11:22:00 AM PST
by
PapaBear3625
(During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
To: PapaBear3625
And 12 ga. slugs, .729 cal
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posted on
01/27/2012 11:27:28 AM PST
by
muir_redwoods
(No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
To: MarkL
I hope he, and his company, has ‘stuck to their guns’ on this...
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posted on
01/27/2012 11:35:09 AM PST
by
WayneS
(Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
To: Niteranger68
I was watching History Channel and they were covering the Pacific War and there were numerous scenes of Japanese kamikaze planes attacking the American fleets.
Thousands of guns were firing thousands of rounds of ammunition at these relatively slow moving planes and, tragically, to little effect.
But I’m supposed to believe that a modern airliner with multiple redundant safety systems on board can be shot down by a single .50 caliber round.
Yeah, right.
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posted on
01/27/2012 11:35:52 AM PST
by
MeganC
(No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
To: marktwain
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posted on
01/27/2012 11:36:54 AM PST
by
ari-freedom
(If SOPA/PIPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
To: marktwain
Rock River Arms, Armalite, D.S Arms, and probably othersLMT, for one.
Les Baer has already made the move to Iowa (which, bad as it can be in many ways, is still not Cook County or Baja Cook County).
Mr. niteowl77
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posted on
01/27/2012 11:39:23 AM PST
by
niteowl77
(Mitt Romney: the horse the GOP elite intends to ride into the abyss. Or is it the other way around?)
To: marktwain
I guess the Mudsills and the 7th Ill Cavalry reenactor groups are going to have to leave their carbines and Springfields in other states for reenactments. The majority of CW weapons were .50 caliber or greater. ickinidiots must live in Illinois. Obama, Durbin, Daleys and the rest and now this.
To: marktwain
If I owned a gun manufacturer, I would immediately introduce my .49.5 Magnum!
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posted on
01/27/2012 12:57:03 PM PST
by
chuckles
To: chuckles
BTW, it would be a .50 BMG necked down to 49.5 with a 500+ grn bullet.
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posted on
01/27/2012 1:01:59 PM PST
by
chuckles
To: muir_redwoods
Yea. Deer slugs can do a lot of damage.
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posted on
01/27/2012 1:02:04 PM PST
by
olepap
(God help us)
To: MeganC
Somebody who is good at math could figure out the lead, lets see, 600 mph/60/60 = miles per second...
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posted on
01/27/2012 1:04:58 PM PST
by
olepap
(God help us)
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