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To: little jeremiah; Fred Nerks; bushpilot1; SvenMagnussen
Sven is a turd! I had this back and forth with him already. He choose to keep spreading mis-information.

Sven; Judge Malihi offers an advisory opinion to the GA SoS. If an adverse decision is made against Obama by the GA SoS, then he can appeal the GA SoS decision to Georgia Superior Court. The case will be de novo, or a fresh start, because GA SoS will only have access to Judge Malihi’s opinion and not a trial transcript and evidence presented.

Obama can submit his certified COLB as proof and the Georgia Superior Court may accept it as proof he’s qualified to be on the ballot. It really depends on how aggressive the GA AAG defends the GA SoS decision. Will the GA AAG present MvH dicta as precedent? What about WKA? How does Schneider v Rusk (quoting Osborn) fit into the eligibility question?

Greg To Sven;Wrong!On this thread the "appeal" process is described in GA law.

[snip]On review, the reviewing agency shall consider the whole record or such portions of it as may be cited by the parties. In reviewing initial decisions by the Office of State Administrative Hearings, the reviewing agency shall give due regard to the administrative law judge’s opportunity to observe witnesses. If the reviewing agency rejects or modifies a proposed finding of fact or a proposed decision, it shall give reasons for doing so in writing in the form of findings of fact and conclusions of law.

Sven To Greg;

You’re dreaming. The only acceptable conclusion is a default Order. Otherwise, you have parties arguing their cases without objection or cross examination.

Here are the rules on default:

OFFICE OF STATE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS

CHAPTER 616-1-2

ADMINISTRATIVE RULES OF PROCEDURE

616-1-2-.30 Default. Amended.

(1) A default order may be entered against a party that fails to participate in any stage of a proceeding, a party that fails to file any required pleading, or a party that fails to comply with an order issued by the Administrative Law Judge.

(2) Any default order may provide for a default as to all issues, a default as to specific issues, or other limitations, including limitations on the presentation of evidence and on the defaulting party’s continued participation in the proceeding. After issuing a default order, the Administrative Law Judge shall proceed as necessary to resolve the case without the participation of the defaulting party, or with such limited participation as the Administrative Law Judge deems appropriate, and shall determine all issues in the proceeding, including those affecting the party in default.

My original response to the default order was "A default order was averted"

But lets look at the above.

(1) A default order may be entered

(2)After issuing a default order, the Administrative Law Judge shall proceed as necessary to resolve the case without the participation of the defaulting party,

So no matter how you look it, evidence was presented and will be considered at the hearing level as well as at the SoS, and if appealed at the SC level. You have offered nothing to back up your claims and in fact you have argued against your own comments.

1,339 posted on 01/31/2012 4:50:13 AM PST by GregNH (I will continue to do whatever it takes, my grandchildren are depending on me....)
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To: GregNH
"Sven is a turd!"

I thought FR had a no name calling policy.

As to an agency review, the Defendant refused to participate. The "whole record" is one-sided testimony and hearsay after a Default Judgement was offered by the Judge.

Read "616-1-2-.30 Default. Amended." carefully ... "After issuing a default order, the Administrative Law Judge shall proceed as necessary to resolve the case without the participation of the defaulting party, or with such limited participation as the Administrative Law Judge deems appropriate, and shall determine all issues in the proceeding, including those affecting the party in default."

For additional information, see Georgia AG Sam Olen's Opinion http://law.ga.gov/00/opinion/detail/0,2668,87670814_90679019_109053905,00.html

"These hearing officers function as the 'ultimate decision maker' for the agency."

and

"The authority to make quasi-judicial decisions is delegated by the legislature to an administrative agency."

An appeal of GA SoS's final decision will be to Georgia Superior Court. The Georgia Superior Court will not accept a finding of fact and record thereof from the Georgia Legislative Branch delegated hearing. The appeal will be de novo or clean start.
1,342 posted on 01/31/2012 7:50:40 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (What would MacGyver do?)
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