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1 posted on 01/22/2012 1:00:59 PM PST by NYer
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To: wagglebee; Nachum

Please rally your troops!


2 posted on 01/22/2012 1:02:11 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

The 2010 “census” will go down in history as one of the biggest hoaxes and scams ever perpetrated on the American people by the U.S. Government.


3 posted on 01/22/2012 1:03:06 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Independent" and "moderate" voters are overrated.)
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To: NYer

instdems


4 posted on 01/22/2012 1:06:48 PM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: NYer

Montana should demand that international tourists be counted as residents.


5 posted on 01/22/2012 1:09:00 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: NYer; Jim Robinson; onyx; 185JHP; 230FMJ; AFA-Michigan; AKA Elena; APatientMan; Abathar; ...
Special Ping!

Every failing dictator in the history of the world has tried a "last gasp" act of desperation to try to retain power.

6 posted on 01/22/2012 1:13:26 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: NYer
Nothing much new from the communists King Obama Administration. All Democrats are communists and corrupt.
9 posted on 01/22/2012 1:19:50 PM PST by Logical me
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To: NYer

Nothing surprises me anymore. I’m trying not to become numb from all the craziness that keeps mounting from the left. It’s a non stop attack on America.


10 posted on 01/22/2012 1:21:42 PM PST by FishinTX
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To: NYer
Democrats desperately need these illegal aliens in their party, as their voting constituency has declined substantially in the last thirty nine years, and they have no one to blame but themselves.

How many million future Democrats do you think have been flushed down the commode since Roe V. Wade was decided in 1973?

11 posted on 01/22/2012 1:29:32 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: NYer
I've been saying it all along that the 30 million illegals in America translates into some 50 house seats and they'll be primarily democrat.

I tried but I think its too late for America.

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12 posted on 01/22/2012 1:30:14 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: NYer
I disagree with this article's interpretation of the constititution, and it seems a clear reading of the text shows that the article is in error.

In the citation the article gives, we find:

Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons
Note that they give an exception to "free Persons" -- "excluding Indians not taxed". Indians not taxed were not "citizens". But they felt they had to exclude them, which means that without the exclusion, the term "free Persons" would have included Indians.

Then they say "3/5th of all other Persons". This is slaves -- which means slaves were considered "Persons". Slaves were clearly not citizens, and most were not born here, so they were immigrants.

Persons therefore cannot have a "special meaning" in the constitution of "citizens".

The 14th amendment doesn't change that:

counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed
All they did was remove the "3/5ths" part. They didn't change what "persons" meant, or suggest that persons had to be citizens.

In fact, the entire 3/5ths compromise proves the article wrong. Why did we need a "compromise"? Why not just ignore slaves? The south wanted them counted for apportionment, so they got them "partly counted".

28 posted on 01/22/2012 2:17:30 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: NYer
Clinton did it too.
36 posted on 01/22/2012 2:59:33 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing popular indenture since 1832.)
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To: NYer

Whats to count? There’s 20 million of ‘em. Isn’t that what we’re always being told? “Living in the shadows, denied access to health care and education by racist Americans’’. Isn’t that how the tune goes?


38 posted on 01/22/2012 3:26:52 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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The Census bureau has been using the same methodology including 12 to 20 million illegal aliens and about 10 million Legal Permanent Residents (green card holders.) It has distorted our electoral system as well shifting federal dollars, which are distributed on that basis.


42 posted on 01/22/2012 3:45:49 PM PST by kabar
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Might as well add dead people to the census. That’s another demographic that votes 100% for the Democrats.


46 posted on 01/22/2012 5:07:19 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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Remember that for the first time that The white house took control of the whole Census. The Republicans squabbled for about 5 minutes, and then did nothing about it. As usual.


47 posted on 01/22/2012 6:00:31 PM PST by Revel
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WHAT THE HELL?

Why isn’t everyone with w voice screaming at the top of their lungs about this?

RLTW


48 posted on 01/22/2012 6:03:22 PM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: NYer; wagglebee; Nachum; reaganaut; Scoutmaster
Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. - Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 3, U.S. Constitution

Illegals should count for no more than 3/5 of a person, if they are counted at all.

50 posted on 01/22/2012 6:23:07 PM PST by mrreaganaut (Gingrich/Santorum 2012!)
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They have to keep the big states big.

Without illegals, California’s population would be sinking.

They need those House seats. They need those electoral votes.


51 posted on 01/22/2012 6:30:23 PM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: NYer

bttt


61 posted on 01/26/2012 12:38:37 PM PST by Dante3
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