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Obama Administration 'Rigging' US Census By Counting Illegal Aliens (Desperation Alert!)
The Church Report ^ | January 22, 2012 | Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 01/22/2012 1:00:48 PM PST by NYer

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To: onyx

Assuming you aren’t playing on the word “candidate”, and are really trying to say that Gingrich is the best conservative who ran for President, you can’t possibly believe that because you supported TWO OTHER CANDIDATES before you came around to Gingrich.

And if we had done a poll in May here at FR, Gingrich wouldn’t have gotten 10% of the vote for “conservative”.


41 posted on 01/22/2012 3:39:10 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: NYer

The Census bureau has been using the same methodology including 12 to 20 million illegal aliens and about 10 million Legal Permanent Residents (green card holders.) It has distorted our electoral system as well shifting federal dollars, which are distributed on that basis.


42 posted on 01/22/2012 3:45:49 PM PST by kabar
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To: cripplecreek
CC, I've got to suppport Gingrich on this one. Don't get me wrong, I have many a reservation but the alternative are worse. It's going to be up to us to elect a TP Senate and strnghten the Congress with more TP Conservatives so we can hold his feet to the fire...lest he is temped to stray....

It is what it is, Paul is an idiot, Santorum, as much as he has to offer just isn't it this time....Romney.....no thanks.

So all we have is Newt.

If Newt does 50% of what he says he's going to do, that will be a hugh start, series!

Obama again on the other hand will end this Country as you and I know it.

Yeah, I know, It's not perfect and what we TP's dream of but heck, we have to start some where.

43 posted on 01/22/2012 3:48:10 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; onyx
You can rationally argue Gingrich as the best way to stop Romney. Don’t try to sell Gingrich as the best conservative candidate.

So who is, Paul?

Your post:

You can rationally argue Gingrich as the best way to stop Romney.

Fruedian slip?


44 posted on 01/22/2012 4:02:41 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: FrankR

lol


45 posted on 01/22/2012 5:00:51 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NYer

Might as well add dead people to the census. That’s another demographic that votes 100% for the Democrats.


46 posted on 01/22/2012 5:07:19 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: NYer

Remember that for the first time that The white house took control of the whole Census. The Republicans squabbled for about 5 minutes, and then did nothing about it. As usual.


47 posted on 01/22/2012 6:00:31 PM PST by Revel
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To: NYer

WHAT THE HELL?

Why isn’t everyone with w voice screaming at the top of their lungs about this?

RLTW


48 posted on 01/22/2012 6:03:22 PM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I’m not sure what you meant, but I said what I meant. Clearly, many people are supporting Gingrich because they believe he is the best way to stop Romney, and that is what is important, more important than supporting the most conservative candidate.

But there’s no way he was the most conservative candidate in the race, much less the most conservative person we wanted in the race. He wasn’t even on the RADAR for most conservatives when this race started.

Of the possible and actual candidates, I’d say Gingrich ranks above Paul, Romney, and Huntsman. Maybe also above Roemer. He certainly, in THIS century, has not spoken or acted more conservatively than Sarah Palin, Herman Cain, Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry, or Rick Santorum. I’d argue that in this century, he wasn’t more conservative than candidate Tim Pawlenty, or candidate possible Paul Ryan.

Having explained that, I’m not sure how we got into a discussion of Gingrich in an article about the Census.


49 posted on 01/22/2012 6:19:45 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: NYer; wagglebee; Nachum; reaganaut; Scoutmaster
Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. - Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 3, U.S. Constitution

Illegals should count for no more than 3/5 of a person, if they are counted at all.

50 posted on 01/22/2012 6:23:07 PM PST by mrreaganaut (Gingrich/Santorum 2012!)
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To: NYer

They have to keep the big states big.

Without illegals, California’s population would be sinking.

They need those House seats. They need those electoral votes.


51 posted on 01/22/2012 6:30:23 PM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Clearly, many people are supporting Gingrich because they believe he is the best way to stop Romney, and that is what is important, more important than supporting the most conservative candidate.

I think you just nailed it.

BTW, looking back, maybe I misread your post.

Be that as it may, yes, Gingrich is the best by far to defeat the bamster.

Some time ago I do recall when Gingrich was a pariah here, but I think we've all come to realize exactly what the stakes are here.

My fervent prayer is that Gingrich does half of what he says he going to do, that in and of it's self will go a long way in correcting the course we're on.

I'm also not naive enough to recognize that this mess we're in is not going to be corrected by one man, we're going to have to correct many years, generations if you will, of indoctrinated people entering and voting in the system.

This Country is split, there is no argument, we cannot discount those who have been indoctrinated, it's going to be a tough battle....especially when they depend on funds from sugar daddy.

I hope we can do it at the ballot box, but I doubt it.

It's going to take CWII, imo.

52 posted on 01/22/2012 6:55:04 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: wagglebee

Thanks for the ping!


53 posted on 01/22/2012 9:15:30 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Las Vegas Ron; onyx

If you get the chance, listen to Newt’s post-election speech from Saturday night. I recall two things. First, he came close to promising martial law on the border. Second, he called out a west Texas federal judge by name as a dictator for threatening a school superintendent with jail if “God” was said at a high school commencement.


54 posted on 01/23/2012 4:42:39 AM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: Jacquerie

Gee, why not just let the entire population of Mexico vote in our elections? Allow cats, dogs, rats, etc. to vote too. Hell, at they have far more intelligence than the average democrat. If I were running things, NO one would be allowed to vote w/ out proof of citizenship & voter registration. States that do not purge their rolls of dead people, etc. don’t get their votes counted in any election. Ditto states that do not send absentee ballots to our military people overseas on time. They just forfet all of their votes. After all, what is good for the goose is good for the gander...


55 posted on 01/23/2012 6:22:26 AM PST by Bulgaricus1 (Fill your hand you son...)
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To: Jacquerie

Gee, why not just let the entire population of Mexico vote in our elections? Allow cats, dogs, rats, etc. to vote too. Hell, at they have far more intelligence than the average democrat. If I were running things, NO one would be allowed to vote w/ out proof of citizenship & voter registration. States that do not purge their rolls of dead people, etc. don’t get their votes counted in any election. Ditto states that do not send absentee ballots to our military people overseas on time. They just forfet all of their votes. After all, what is good for the goose is good for the gander...


56 posted on 01/23/2012 6:25:44 AM PST by Bulgaricus1 (Fill your hand you son...)
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To: Bulgaricus1
States that do not purge their rolls of dead people, etc. don’t get their votes counted in any election.

IIRC, there is a federal law that requires Secs of State to do just that on a periodic basis. The Bamster and his Black Panther Attorney General illegally told the states they did not have to comply.

57 posted on 01/23/2012 7:00:43 AM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Having done quite a bit of genealogy using census, they did indeed count non-citizens. In some years, they asked if the person was naturalized, year of naturalization, and country of origin. But I’m thinking in those days they were mostly legal immigrants.


58 posted on 01/23/2012 8:50:01 AM PST by Help!
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To: Help!

I think they should only count legal immigrants. But if you think about it, that is the actual problem — that we can COUNT illegals, but can’t deport them. And if you decide to let people stay in the country, they are defacto “legal” whether you call them that or not.


59 posted on 01/23/2012 10:25:52 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: wagglebee

Holder is fixing it up so Obama can’t lose. The illegals will be voting for Obama as will their deceased illegal alien relatives and the Americans they have murdered.


60 posted on 01/23/2012 9:54:06 PM PST by floriduh voter ( Obamacare is to you as a can of RAID is to a bug. R A I D !)
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