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To: BenKenobi
I would NEVER EVER say anyone should be denied ‘communion’. I do not believe for one blink of the eye any flesh being has that kind of authority.”

Well, here’s where you and I part ways. I think Paul is really clear here, that the Church can and does have the authority to deny communion to those who are manifest sinners.

How many did Paul deny communion? Seems IF it were the Heavenly Father's intent that 'flesh' man was to set up 'communion' inspections that Paul would have made that his mission.

“That thief hanging on the cross was NOT required to follow any of man made tradition”

You aren’t a Catholic, which explains why you don’t agree with the teaching of the Church that states that there is an infalliable magisterium. This is why we disagree on this point. I believe in the infalliable magisterium, so please understand it.

It is because of this tradition that I would never be allowed to take 'communion'...

“See some religiosity seem to think only through them and their traditions can we in the flesh be offered salvation.”

The Church doesn’t teach that God is limited to the Church. This is a common misconception. Some have taught this, but the Church said, explicitly, that Romans contradicts this, saying that even those who have no contact with God and the Church, will be saved, “for they are a law unto themselves”.

But the Church does 'limit' who can take communion, well unless they are liberal democrats.

Hope that clears up a few things.

A suggestion is to take your investigation into Newt's sex activities to the private confessional.

512 posted on 01/21/2012 11:30:26 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts

“How many did Paul deny communion?”

Well if Corinthians is any indication he kicked people out of the church outright.

“Seems IF it were the Heavenly Father’s intent that ‘flesh’ man was to set up ‘communion’ inspections that Paul would have made that his mission.”

Terrible argument. The conclusion does not follow from the premise. The premise is true, but there’s no reason why it would have to be Paul’s mission - especially when Paul was assigned to preach the Gospel of the Gentiles.

And from what I can see, that is part of what Paul did do, as a bishop, to oversee the flock and exercise Church discipline.

“It is because of this tradition that I would never be allowed to take ‘communion’ “

Well, likely because you don’t believe what we do about communion either. Do you believe in the Real Presence?

“But the Church does ‘limit’ who can take communion”

Only insofar as one does not believe in what the Church believes, or is actively opposing what the church teaches. And even then, they rarely do so.

“A suggestion is to take your investigation into Newt’s sex activities to the private confessional.”

Well, I’m sure that’s because you believe that the Church has no right to say anything about Sex.


549 posted on 01/21/2012 11:48:01 AM PST by BenKenobi (Vindicated! Santorum wins IOWA!)
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