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To: dirtboy

“The budgets were the closest to being balanced during Newt’s tenure than in any recent time.”

As I said, the economy was coming off 12 year sustained growth, hitting the peak in 2000, a peak that we’ve not seen since wrt inflation.

They were close, not because of Newt’s efforts, but becuase the economy was doing so well. Had we taken Newt’s policies into the Bush years, we would have run up even larger deficits than Bush.

“He also engineered the GOP takeover in 1994.”

Just like Boner did in 2010?

“And brought forth some significant legislation such as welfare reform.”

Finally, an actual accomplishment. Which is why he also signed off on stuff like Fanny + Freddy, and all the mortage credit bubble. How’d that work out?

Yes, he passed some good legislation. I’ll give him that, but he also signed off on some terrible, terrible legislation.

“Just like you can pretend that Newt is like Clinton”

Yeah, he is just like Clinton a serial adulterer. BTW - If the argument is that he hasn’t cheated on anyone recently, that’s not a very good argument is it?

“although Clinton got impeached for lying under oath, not for his affairs.”

Which is why he’s just like Clinton. Need I bring up all the ethics violations that drove Newt out of office?


209 posted on 01/21/2012 8:29:15 AM PST by BenKenobi (Vindicated! Santorum wins IOWA!)
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To: BenKenobi
Need I bring up all the ethics violations that drove Newt out of office?

You mean the ethics violations that were found to be without merit - save one, which was more of a technicality than anything?

The difference was, Clinton WAS guilty of lying under oath.

Boy, you sure love spraying the slime, don't you?

211 posted on 01/21/2012 8:31:06 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: BenKenobi; 50mm; darkwing104

Seriously, I’m going to suggest that you support Santorum and not lie about Gingrich.

Saying he is Bill Clinton, when Gingrich fought his ass off to bring Welfare Reform, balanced budgets...and to stave off Hillary Care...is being a troll.

Wise up or I see a short future for you here.


251 posted on 01/24/2012 7:18:51 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: BenKenobi

If you hadn’t been ZOT’d I’d have been happy to debate the so called ethics violation investigations, none of which EVER BORE ANY FRUIT!!!

Think about that. 86 charges and the Democrats couldn’t find him violation of one of them.

Then again, that wasn’t goal.

They wanted to bury him, send him off tempo and keep him so busy he couldn’t effectively run as the leader and complete his agenda.

Too bad, cry babies. He completed 2/3rds of his stated agenda and it was on the really important issues of the day.

Welfare Reform. Check

Reduced Taxes. Check

Balanced Budget. Check

A majority of Republican representatives. Check

In fact, the foundation of Representatives Newt helped usher in made it possible to, once again, acheive a majority under George Bush.

And your contention that Boehner brought us a majority in 2010 is so much pablum and he was never a factor in the race.

That majority was a direct of a dissatisfied and abuse electorate who came together in the TEA Party and through our grass roots efforts alone we found and supported new representatives more closely aligned with our political ideals.

And that is the crux of politics. “Our Political Ideals”


271 posted on 01/24/2012 8:47:14 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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