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To: reed13k
“It’s illegal to carry the weapon in this state. “ - I’m fairly certain this is a false statement that the media just wishes were true. I believe that if you grease the correct palms or bust your ass to jump through all the hoops that NY does indeed issue concealed carry permits...


New York Concealed Carry Permit Information

Concealed Permit:
May Issue to Residents Only*
The determination whether to grant the license is completely within the discretion of the
licensing officer. However, the licensing officer must state specifically and concisely in
writing the reasons for a denial. A denial can only be overturned in court if the denial is
shown to be arbitrary and capricious.

Issuing Authority:
Licensing Officer of the City or County where the applicant resides, is principally employed,
or where his principal place of business as a merchant or storekeeper is located.

NICS check: Yes

Cost:
A license fee is fixed by the board of supervisors in each county, with a $10.00
limit prescribed by state law. The Division of Criminal Justice Services sets the
fingerprinting fee. The fee for each amendment to the license is $3.00 ($5.00 in Suffolk
County). In New York City and Nassau County, the City Council and Board of Supervisors, respectively, set the license fees without regard to the state law limitation.

Featured New York Firearm Instructors:
Requirements:
Westchester County may require the applicant to successfully complete a firearms safety course
and test in addition to meeting the other requirements. Other counties also require a safety
course for license issuance.

A license may be granted to an applicant who is of good moral character, who is over 21 years of age, who has not been convicted of a serious offense, who states if and when he has ever been treated for mental illness, who is not subject to a protective court order and to whom no
good cause exists for the denial of the license. The age requirement shall not apply to persons
honorably discharged from the military. (Persons between age 18 and 21 may possess a handgun at
an indoor or outdoor pistol range located in or on premises owned or occupied by a duly
incorporated organization organized for conservation purposes or to foster proficiency in small
arms. A person between the ages of 18 and 21 may also possess a handgun at a target pistol
shooting competition under the auspices of or approved by the NRA and while under immediate
supervision).

Applications for licenses must be acted upon within 6 months after presentment. If there is a
delay, there must be written notice to the applicant stating the reasons.

If issued, a license is valid until revoked, except in New York City where a license shall
expire not more than 3 years after the date of issuance, and in Nassau, Suffolk and Westchester
Counties where a license shall expire not more than 5 years after the date of issuance.

An applicant for a license to carry outside the home must be required to show, in addition to
the requirement for possession, that proper cause exists for the issuance of a carry license,
including, for example, target shooting, hunting, or self-defense.

Informing Law Enforcement of Carry:
Automobile carry:
A loaded handgun may be carried in a vehicle by a properly licensed individual. (Loaded means a
firearm with ammunition loaded in magazine or chamber or any firearm which is possessed by one
who at the same time possesses a quantity of ammunition which may be used to discharge such
a
firearm.) Possession of any loaded rifle or shotgun in a vehicle is illegal.

It is unlawful for any person to carry, possess or transport a handgun in or through the state
unless he has a valid New York license.
More details on this click here.

Places off-limits when carrying:
It is a crime to possess any rifle, shotgun or handgun in or upon a building or grounds, used
for educational purposes, of any school, college or university. It is lawful, however, to
possess a rifle, shotgun or handgun in or upon the forestry lands, wherever located, owned and
maintained by the State University of New York College of environmental science and forestry,
without the written authorization of such educational institution.

Deadly Force / Castle Doctrine:
New York is a Castle Doctrine state but has no stand-your-ground law.


Not a New Yorker but this information is openly available on the web. It appears that indeed New York State as well as City does issue CCW permits, but clearly not "shall issue" since you must "demonstrate a need" a need, also NYC and several counties have opted out of the $10 fee limit which makes CCW there seem to be discretionary. I may be wrong on that but * the law as described does not provide for reciprocity which makes CC by tourists clearly a violation of NY law. Second Amendment applies to Federal Laws ("Congress shall...") and leaves states to deal individually with the question. Which opens the question is NY alone in denying reciprocity? Clearly the only safe answer is to research the laws of any states you plan om visiting BEFORE leaving on your trip.

Regards,
GtG

PS I am not a lawyer but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once...

59 posted on 01/20/2012 3:46:29 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
I found this in the NRA summary of the NY gun law.

(A provision of federal law provides a defense to state or local laws which would prohibit the passage of persons with firearms in interstate travel if the person is traveling from any place where he may lawfully possess and transport a firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and transport such firearm and the firearm is unloaded and in the trunk. In vehicles without a trunk, the unloaded firearm shall be in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console).

It does cut a tourist a little slack when "transporting a gun through NY but does not apply to loaded arms carried on your person.

G

60 posted on 01/20/2012 3:58:16 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
Which opens the question is NY alone in denying reciprocity?

No, New Jersey denies it as well. Also effectively denies CCW for residents, i.e. May Issue with demonstrated proof of imminent threat to life.

68 posted on 01/20/2012 6:54:42 PM PST by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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