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To: apoliticalone
Defending is about preventing, like defending the borders so we don’t end up with 20 million illegals sucking up billions;

I agree. But that statement is in conflict with an earlier assertion -- which is the one I have a problem with.

The 11 year (now going on in-perpetuity) “War on Terror” has turned into a war against the rights and liberties of Americans.

How, pray tell, are we to "defend the USA" against illegals without some mechanism by which to identify them?

Arguing that the War on Terror has turned into "a war against the rights and liberties of Americans" is a lazy, Paulistic way of arguing against legitimate steps to defend ourselves -- not only against terrorists, but the invasion of illegals, as well.

I don't want terrorists using the international telephone network to arrange a plot to take down an airliner. In fact, as yet, I'm not aware of any aspect of the Patriot Act (e.g.) that has impinged on my, or anybody else's, personal freedom. Nor do I want illegals taking American jobs or collecting welfare checks.

I assume you don't either.

It boils down to how do we do this without any form of positive identification system?

56 posted on 01/20/2012 4:01:15 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01
It boils down to how do we do this without any form of positive identification system?

Well, you could start by sending the TSA employees back to guarding parking lots and employ Israeli strategists to design our transport and border security, sh*t can government unions a-la-Reagan, dump the cross-agency brickwalling (Jamie Gorlick comes to mind) by recreating our intelligence agencies, starting with driving a stake through the BATFE. Give Justice and Treasury a top to bottom enema... well, that's just in the first few weeks of Newt's presidency.

63 posted on 01/20/2012 8:01:10 PM PST by glock rocks (http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/brene_brown_on_vulnerability.html)
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