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Boeing’s New Missile for Littoral Combat Ships
DefenseTech ^ | January 18th, 2012

Posted on 01/18/2012 7:59:22 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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To: spetznaz

But can it kill a dog chained in my garage?


21 posted on 01/19/2012 1:10:53 AM PST by american_ranger
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To: spetznaz
None of those can do 50 knots. 50. Fifty. L. 110010.

The Little Corvette Speedy can (on a really really good day)

You have to give up something in other areas if you want to do 50knots.



Did I need a sarcasm font?

22 posted on 01/19/2012 1:30:24 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Whatever happened to that Amy Summerland sailing chick?)
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To: Oztrich Boy

:)


23 posted on 01/19/2012 1:56:05 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: rlmorel

“Haven’t followed this one closely, but...it is a nice looking vessel. What are its drawbacks, in your opinion? Too lightly armored, poor performance, limited armament?”

I think you nicely summed it up...


24 posted on 01/19/2012 3:22:31 AM PST by brooklin
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To: rlmorel; spetznaz; DesertRhino
Haven't followed this one closely, but...it is a nice looking vessel. What are its drawbacks, in your opinion? Too lightly armored, poor performance, limited armament?

Here's the latest criticism:

Navy’s New Minehunter Can’t See or Stop Mines

25 posted on 01/19/2012 3:40:09 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo
I didn't know that mine hunting was a primary task of this vessel, but as I said, I haven't followed it that closely.

Of course, if its primary mission is in littoral waters, then it obviously needs to either have capabilities to not activate mines in the first place or the capability to detect and avoid/destroy them. To me, it sounds like a vessel designed by committee with a weakness for mission creep, and it its hull is composed of aluminum not steel. Having seen the results of a fire and an aluminum superstructure (USS Belknap meet USS John F. Kennedy) I am having visions of modern ships burning to the waterline as a wooden ship of the line might do.

To be fair, though, I would take with a grain of salt any defense related article from a publication such as "Wired", written by a guy who uses this as a tagline: "...Spencer Ackerman is Danger Room's senior reporter, based out of Washington, D.C., covering weapons of doom and the strategies they're used to implement..."

I read one of the linked articles about corrosion on this vessel titled "Builder blames Navy as US Warship Disintigrates", and read this passage:

"...There are technical terms for this kind of disintegration. Austal USA, Independence‘s Alabama-based builder, calls it “galvanic corrosion.” Civilian scientists know it as “electrolysis.” It’s what occurs when “two dissimilar metals, after being in electrical contact with one another, corrode at different rates,” Austal explained in a statement. “That suggests to me the metal is completely gone, not rusted,” naval analyst Raymond Pritchett wrote of Independence‘s problem..."

When I read this, I thought...Okay, someone took an explanation of galvanic corrosion and made that conclusion...

26 posted on 01/19/2012 6:14:33 AM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: GATOR NAVY
Considering that the fastest vessel is considerable slower than any air target, this sounds kind of stupid.

It's not a question of being faster than the ship, it's being faster than the ship's defensive systems can react to.

27 posted on 01/19/2012 6:18:53 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: rlmorel

You got three of them. Add undermanned and overcomputerized, too expensive, and the fact that while proponents like to tout the multipurpose roles of LCS, none of the swappable mission modules that will supposedly support this capability exist, except on paper.


28 posted on 01/19/2012 10:02:13 AM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: GATOR NAVY

The Austal produced version is multi hulled and a lot faster, more fuel efficient and all but still a little light on armament.

Navy seems to be afraid of packing any of the big guns. They really blew it when they backed off the 155mm wep as built now by BAE. NGFS capable inland beyond 60 miles.

Maybe they should have asked the Marines what they would prefer.


29 posted on 01/19/2012 10:26:58 AM PST by libertyhoundusnr
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If they asked the Marines they would say bring back the battleships.

I thought the Zumwault’s were still on track for the 155mm.


30 posted on 01/19/2012 10:44:26 AM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: libertyhoundusnr

And I don’t think the 155mm was ever a consideration for LCS. Even if they could carry the gun I suspect the ammo supply would be pretty small. i


31 posted on 01/19/2012 10:47:45 AM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: american_ranger

“But can it kill a dog chained in my garage?”

Nope. Just need a psychopathic pussified cop (I repeat myeself) for that.


32 posted on 01/19/2012 11:26:28 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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33 posted on 01/19/2012 12:49:08 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: GATOR NAVY

I cannot disagree...I have heard that a lot of modern navy designs are geared towards fewer humans and more computers. Which makes them more expensive, and vulnerable.

As for the swappable modules for different missions..that sounds like a level of operational rigidity that is disturbing if true.

“We can’t look for that downed pilot because we have different mission modules loaded in...”


34 posted on 01/19/2012 5:27:18 PM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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