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To: GregNH

Why move to quash?...to prevent HI from producing documents directly to the court, and not through Obama.

Do the HI copies match obama’s copies?


36 posted on 01/19/2012 5:08:36 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple
Good point.

Any real document in Hawaii will not match what Obama has thus far produced. We know that the long form is a fabrication. So they will not cooperate because they can't cooperate without getting caught.

So risking the loss of one or more states is a preferable option for them.

An honest candidate could and would surrender every DOH document for inspection. This is unbelievable that an American President would choose to do this.

38 posted on 01/19/2012 5:29:32 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Triple

Good post. A poster over at Sean Hannity forums commented this:

Interesting, the WH is attempting to quash subpoenas that are not directed at them. But to Hawaii - since the WH will not provide simple documents apparently. So the WH is not attempting to intervene in a transaction that they are not party to.


40 posted on 01/19/2012 5:35:38 AM PST by Obama Exposer
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To: Triple

There are several pro Obama supporting attorneys commenting over at the pro Obama website called the Fogbow who seem to be nervous about this move and think that Obama’s attorney is making a mistake if he is going to rely on the image of the birth certificate as proof of eligibility.

Here are their comments:

attorney Sterngard Friegen wrote about Mr. Jablonski’s (Obama’s attorney) messiness:

“I don’t understand starting off the motion by pointing out that the info is already available all over the Internet. That does look foolish. None of those images are admissible evidence for anyone.” and “I don’t think there is any justification for the hodge podge mess Jablonski has filed. If he would bother to read it he’d be embarrassed. I think it makes him look foolish and unprofessional.”

and this:

“Well, that’s it then; Jablonski fell right into Orly’s trap!

See, he argues that Orly has copies of the files posted on the Web ... so now Orly can call in her experts who will testify why that stuff up on the Web site is a forgery! Then, the Georgia judge has to rule that Obama is not eligible, and then Orly can go back to Hawaii with that ruling, and Judge Nishimura has to let her see the original documents!

Checkmate!!”

and another attorneys view:

“I wonder if Jablonski & crew may be working too much in a vacuum.”

Another:

“But I gotta say, even with my leniency, I don’t understand starting off the motion by pointing out that the info is already available all over the Internet. That does look foolish. None of those images are admissible evidence for anyone.”

One more:

“Also, remember what the statute says about any appeal: it is conducted only on the evidence in the record.

So if a COLB is *not* introduced at the hearing, it can’t suddenly be added as evidence on appeal. And if Jablonski can’t win on the state powers argument on appeal, then he’s kinda stuck.”

And here is one Fogbow poster named Tomtech who is so nervous, he actually wrote a letter to the White House. Here is his post and he is a Texas democratic delegate:

I must admit that I am a little worried. Not about Orly’s antics, but about Jablosnki’s strategy. I went as fas as sending the following to the White House via their e-mail system.

Quote:

Please present your COLB at the Georgia Administrative Law Hearing on 1-26-2012

I have been, and will be, an Obama Delegate to the Texas Democratic Convention and I have no doubts about the Presidents eligibility for the Office.

Too many low information voters only hear the initial headline and are oblivious to information which comes later.

The last thing this country needs is a headline stating “Georgia Judge declares Obama unqualified to be President”.

If Jablosnki stay’s with the arguments presented in pre-trial motions and fails to produce the COLB it is possible that Judge Maliki will rule against him since he failed to meet the burden of proof required under the state and then the headline above will be atop every newspaper in the world the next day.

I know the ruling will have little impact on the President’s Nomination and will most likely be overturned on appeal, but that headline will cause worldwide unrest and could possibly lead to extreme problems domestically.

Please ensure Jablosnki meets the burden of proof required by Judge Maliki and doesn’t cause problems this country and the world can’t afford through strictly relying on a jurisdictional argument.


45 posted on 01/19/2012 6:33:57 AM PST by Obama Exposer
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To: Triple

I agree but HI has already said that the GA subpoenas have no weight in HI. So why the quash now! He could of sat back and watched HI take the heat, and could even say that he “supports Hawaiian law in this regard...bla bla bla...” It makes no sense to show your hand before the other side has bet, raised, called, or folded.


60 posted on 01/19/2012 1:35:56 PM PST by GregNH (I am so ready to join a brigade of pick up trucks......)
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